Hey guys. Actually i was building a new pc for my uncle for video editing/rendering purposes and i was wondering what processor should i go for? He will be using adobe premier , sony vegas pro , adobe after affects and more stuff like photo shop. Back then when ryzen wasent there i orignally picked the 6700k as the 7700k had no significant difference in performance. But now seeing the ryzen line of your processors im confused. Need the most bang for buck processor
i7 7700k vs Ryzen 1700 for video editing purposes
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I'm biased toward AMD, but I couldn't see myself building an AMD system for at least the last 10 years. I enthusiastically bought the R7 1700 pre order, and I have not been disappointed. I don't know if it's the guy's scottish accent, but I really enjoyed the take AdoredTV youtube channel had. I think he puts a lot of the current performance and potential performance into perspective about Ryzen...so I'd recommend listening to some of his opinions. I think gaming performance has way overshadowed the overall performance. All people ever talk about is maximum FPS, but don't talk nearly enough about minimum performance and overall utilization. I'm pretty impressed with how fast the system runs at low power and base clock more than anything. JayzTwoCents also had a great overclocking video just last week, where he compared rendering speed.
If you are going to go with Ryzen, the 1700x appears to be the one that's being discounted ($30 discount with AMDRYZEN code at Newegg). I still think the best value is the 1700 with a very nice stock cooler.
If you are going to go with Ryzen, the 1700x appears to be the one that's being discounted ($30 discount with AMDRYZEN code at Newegg). I still think the best value is the 1700 with a very nice stock cooler.
Ryzen r7 1700, and even the upcoming R5 1600 should both handily beat a 7700k in video rendering/other workstation tasks, yes the 7700k has higher clock speeds for similar ipc, but in applications that use multiple threads the 6 real cores and 12 threads (50% more than 7700k) of r5-1600 or the 8 real cores and 16 threads (100% more than 7700k) of the r7 1700 will take the cake.
Overclocked to the limit, so lets say 5Ghz the 7700k should have a roughly 1Ghz clock speed advantage, and with similar ipc (instructions per clock) a single core on the i7 will be roughly 20% faster than ryzen. Which is why it does better in games than ryzen. However workstation tasks like editing tend to use more cores than games do. So having 50% more cores in something like the r5 1600 will result in an overall advantage over the i7 of about 20%. And having 100% more cores in the r7 1700 will result in an advantage of 60% over the i7.
Lets recap
In games, which are generally limited to 4 cores the ryzen cpus theoretically should be 20% behind intel.
However in video editing, rendering, etc the Ryzen R5-1600 should be about 20% faster than an i7 and the R7-1700 should be about 60% faster than the i7.
In short, for editing you should pick ryzen all day long. For gaming intel is faster, but it must be noted, that difference is usually the difference between 130fps and 100fps. So unless your running a 144 hertz monitor you won't see a difference.
Overclocked to the limit, so lets say 5Ghz the 7700k should have a roughly 1Ghz clock speed advantage, and with similar ipc (instructions per clock) a single core on the i7 will be roughly 20% faster than ryzen. Which is why it does better in games than ryzen. However workstation tasks like editing tend to use more cores than games do. So having 50% more cores in something like the r5 1600 will result in an overall advantage over the i7 of about 20%. And having 100% more cores in the r7 1700 will result in an advantage of 60% over the i7.
Lets recap
In games, which are generally limited to 4 cores the ryzen cpus theoretically should be 20% behind intel.
However in video editing, rendering, etc the Ryzen R5-1600 should be about 20% faster than an i7 and the R7-1700 should be about 60% faster than the i7.
In short, for editing you should pick ryzen all day long. For gaming intel is faster, but it must be noted, that difference is usually the difference between 130fps and 100fps. So unless your running a 144 hertz monitor you won't see a difference.
MERGED QUESTION
Question from Ishaan_1 : "i7 7700k vs. Ryzen 1700 for Editing , Rendering , PhotoShop , Afteraffect"
Hey guys , i have some doubts regarding a build i was making for editing/rendering and using photoshop/after affects purposes. Just so you have a bit of information this is the build i had planned on buying
CPU - Ryzen 1700(or the i7 7700k extremely skeptical as the ryzen is new and it has a few underlying issues)
GPU - RX 480 8gb Nitro edition(or GTX 1060 6Gb which my uncle thinks is over kill aswell. Both the graphic cards are out of budget and overkill according to him. Do you think these gpus or anything lower will hinder and come in the way?)
Ram - 16 GB (8x2) Corsair vengeance 2400 MHz(orignally planned to go with 32 but my uncle thinks its out of budget and over kill and it wont limit him. But i feel when he loads imports and exports big projects he will notice the sluggishness , is 16 Gb enough?)
SSD - 240 GB WD ( going to install The OS and a few programs on it , save a few important projects aswell)
HDD - 1TB WD Blue
PSU - Corrsair VS650
Mobo - MSI b350 Tomahawk(if ryzen because the cheaper gigabyte ab350 has more ram compatibility issues). If buying the i7 i will go with the MSI Z270-A-Pro
Okay guys basically i was building a PC for my uncle for using Premier Pro , Photoshop , After Affects , sony vegas pro and adobe cloud creative etc. Now i was wondering what processor should i pick as i read some of the applications are more multithreaded orientated so i thought nothing can be better than the Ryzen 1700(even though it is clocked at a lower speed) for this kind of stuff. But then i read stuff like photoshop is more single-threaded and focuses more on single core performance and seeing the 7700k does not have much of a price difference in my country why not go for the 7700k?
Question from Ishaan_1 : "i7 7700k vs. Ryzen 1700 for Editing , Rendering , PhotoShop , Afteraffect"
Hey guys , i have some doubts regarding a build i was making for editing/rendering and using photoshop/after affects purposes. Just so you have a bit of information this is the build i had planned on buying
CPU - Ryzen 1700(or the i7 7700k extremely skeptical as the ryzen is new and it has a few underlying issues)
GPU - RX 480 8gb Nitro edition(or GTX 1060 6Gb which my uncle thinks is over kill aswell. Both the graphic cards are out of budget and overkill according to him. Do you think these gpus or anything lower will hinder and come in the way?)
Ram - 16 GB (8x2) Corsair vengeance 2400 MHz(orignally planned to go with 32 but my uncle thinks its out of budget and over kill and it wont limit him. But i feel when he loads imports and exports big projects he will notice the sluggishness , is 16 Gb enough?)
SSD - 240 GB WD ( going to install The OS and a few programs on it , save a few important projects aswell)
HDD - 1TB WD Blue
PSU - Corrsair VS650
Mobo - MSI b350 Tomahawk(if ryzen because the cheaper gigabyte ab350 has more ram compatibility issues). If buying the i7 i will go with the MSI Z270-A-Pro
Okay guys basically i was building a PC for my uncle for using Premier Pro , Photoshop , After Affects , sony vegas pro and adobe cloud creative etc. Now i was wondering what processor should i pick as i read some of the applications are more multithreaded orientated so i thought nothing can be better than the Ryzen 1700(even though it is clocked at a lower speed) for this kind of stuff. But then i read stuff like photoshop is more single-threaded and focuses more on single core performance and seeing the 7700k does not have much of a price difference in my country why not go for the 7700k?
The Ryzen 7 1700 will get you the best performance in your applications.
Rendering (video editing)/Large frame editing (image editing) are usually highly parallel tasks as they can be split up into chunks for processing in tandem with the graphics card.
As such you will benefit from a CPU with great multithreading performance.
The Ryzen 7 1700 fares very well in this aspect even at stock.
Compared to the similiar priced Core i7 7700K, Ryzen 7 1700 beats the 7700K by 64% in multithreaded compute.
Since rendering/video editing is an example of a parallel task, Ryzen 1700 is better than 7700K for this purpose.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X/3647vs3915
In large-frame editing, for example in Cinebench where CPUs render one huge image, Ryzen 7 1700 is officially measured in a public benchmarking session where it is 46% faster than the Core i7 7700K.
https://edge.alluremedia.com.au/m/k/2017/02/2017-02-23_005448.jpg
This shows that Ryzen 7 1700 is better for picture editing such as adobe Photoshop, Aftereffects than Core i7 7700K.
Do note that Core i7 7700K has faster single thread performance and does better for ultra-high-end 120Hz gaming, so unless this is a dedicated rig or you do not plan on gaming/plan on 60fps gaming only, Ryzen 7 1700 is plenty fast for AAA games as well.
Other benchmarks
Ryzen 7 ES 3.4 GHz vs Core i7 6900K ($1049)
https://youtu.be/ppBX_hTQ50I
The power of 1700 3.2-3.6 GHz!
As long as you dont overclock these Ryzen CPUs run perfectly well at stock.
Rendering (video editing)/Large frame editing (image editing) are usually highly parallel tasks as they can be split up into chunks for processing in tandem with the graphics card.
As such you will benefit from a CPU with great multithreading performance.
The Ryzen 7 1700 fares very well in this aspect even at stock.
Compared to the similiar priced Core i7 7700K, Ryzen 7 1700 beats the 7700K by 64% in multithreaded compute.
Since rendering/video editing is an example of a parallel task, Ryzen 1700 is better than 7700K for this purpose.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700X/3647vs3915
In large-frame editing, for example in Cinebench where CPUs render one huge image, Ryzen 7 1700 is officially measured in a public benchmarking session where it is 46% faster than the Core i7 7700K.
https://edge.alluremedia.com.au/m/k/2017/02/2017-02-23_005448.jpg
This shows that Ryzen 7 1700 is better for picture editing such as adobe Photoshop, Aftereffects than Core i7 7700K.
Do note that Core i7 7700K has faster single thread performance and does better for ultra-high-end 120Hz gaming, so unless this is a dedicated rig or you do not plan on gaming/plan on 60fps gaming only, Ryzen 7 1700 is plenty fast for AAA games as well.
Other benchmarks
Ryzen 7 ES 3.4 GHz vs Core i7 6900K ($1049)
https://youtu.be/ppBX_hTQ50I
The power of 1700 3.2-3.6 GHz!
As long as you dont overclock these Ryzen CPUs run perfectly well at stock.
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