Which part of my pc is causing render and loading issues?

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Hey there everyone!

Hopefully I have chosen the right forum section for this.


SHORT VERSION

Problem:
-Loading and rendering times for gaming have increased by an extreme amount since I rebuilt pc.
Notes:
-SYS FAN 1 slot stopped working when I rebuilt pc
-Neither fan is broken
-Framerate is not affected
-Fans run at normal rate
-Everything is aired out (cleaned dust)

My PC specs:
-gtx windforce 770 oc edition 2gb
-amd fx 8350 8 core
-gigabyte motherboard
-EVGA 600w bronze power supply
-8gb ram
-Windows 7
-Seagate 125gb ssd
-Kingston 1tb harddrive

LONG VERSION

So a couple weeks ago I had taken apart and packed up my pc because I thought I had short circuited the darn thing when I was tightening a fan screw (the pc would not turn on after I screwed the fan in). After a few days, I rebuilt it and and got it to turn on again, but my SYS FAN 1 plug would not work on the motherboard, and whenever I messed around with the fan plugs, I would have to wait like 30 min and play around with the power to get the computer to turn back on. So now, I can only have one fan running at a time (I don't have the converter plug thing so fans can be plugged into the power supply, which is why I did not mention the PWR FAN slot).

One thing that I noticed since rebuilding the pc is that gaming has been heavily affected. The framerate of my games are fine but oh my lawd, the loading time and rendering times have increased by a HUGE amount. For example, I play Guild Wars 2 and the framerate can still hit between 40 and 60 on max settings, but loading into the map and loading in the characters from other players now takes ages to do when it only used to take a few seconds at the most. If a map used to take 8 seconds to load, it now takes like 25. If fully rendering everything in the map used to take 5 seconds, it now takes like 30.

I have done the usual maintenance like cleaning the pc, different gpu drivers, virus scans, windows updates, defragging, and so on. Nothing seems to be making a difference.

Whew that was a lot of typing, but at least now all the info is out there. If anyone has any ideas of what I could do or what even the problem is, it would be a great help for me.

Thanks!
 
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Murissokah
I don't see anything wrong with those numbers. I'm not considering software, since you stated the change was merely a physical maintenance. Given this, the only thing I can think of is disk I/O.

Using an SSD for a primary drive with a secondary HDD sometimes yields some hiccups when the PC needs to read from the HDD, and this may happen when you wouldn't expect the PC to use the HDD at all (for instance, when the game is installed in the primary SSD drive). You coud use windows perfmon to graph disk activity while you run the game, and see if this is happening.

I had this happen to me once and found out it was NVidia's Shadowplay writing to disk, requiring 4 HDDs to spin up, one by one for some weird reason.
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Hmm. Well I did move a lot of things around when I was rebuilding it (still learning). My motherboard has 4 ram slots. 2 grey ones and 2 black ones. I have both ram sticks (4gb each) plugged into the grey slots. I THINK that is the slots I had them in before but I can't say for certain. I am not sure how to tell which slots do what. I was not even aware there was a difference :eek:

I am gonna try the other slots and see if that helps!

Update: Okay I switched them to the black slots and the issue is still the same. I did not notice a difference.
 
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I see, can you run CPU-Z and check what speeds are your CPU and memory running at? If possible check that while running a game.

EDIT: While you are at it, check the CPU temperature too.

Just for future reference, your CPU has two memory channels, so you need one DIMM on each channel to run dual-channel. The motherboard manual states which slots are which channel.
 
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Okay, thanks. The speed is 4118.86 MHz while in game. Not sure if that is good or not.
The temperature runs between 39 and 46 degrees Celsius
 
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It has gotten to a point where even opening a menu in game can cause the game to freeze for a few seconds. The last time caused it to freeze for about 15 seconds which is nuts!
 
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I don't see anything wrong with those numbers. I'm not considering software, since you stated the change was merely a physical maintenance. Given this, the only thing I can think of is disk I/O.

Using an SSD for a primary drive with a secondary HDD sometimes yields some hiccups when the PC needs to read from the HDD, and this may happen when you wouldn't expect the PC to use the HDD at all (for instance, when the game is installed in the primary SSD drive). You coud use windows perfmon to graph disk activity while you run the game, and see if this is happening.

I had this happen to me once and found out it was NVidia's Shadowplay writing to disk, requiring 4 HDDs to spin up, one by one for some weird reason.
 
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Okay thanks for that info. I am going to do some google searching on that and test it out! Hopefully I can get an idea of what is going on.

Update: My disk read and write times seem to be a bit long according to the performance monitor and the website I was using for reference.
 
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Have you monitored disk activity too? Something like Read/Write bytes/sec will tell when there's I/O activity in a certain disk. You'll then know if this is happening when there's a slowdown.
 
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Okay good news. So yeah I have been monitoring and trying to understand which numbers were good and which were bad. My disk read/write times were pretty high on the performance monitor earlier. Sometimes jumping to like 80% in game.

Now I took apart my pc and rebuilt it for the 3rd time today and I think I fixed the problem! It was either from switching around the 2 sata cords plugged into my hdd and my ssd (they were diff cords so I assume that made a difference). One was called a Serial ATA and one was called SATA 6 gb/s. I put the SATA 6 gb/s in the ssd and the other in the hdd. I also moved my ram sticks around because my computer would not turn on again so maybe moving them helped. Not sure.

Either way, one of those two things must have helped. I am guessing the ssd and harddrive one is more likely so I am going to mark your answer about that as the solution as I never would have thought of it.

Thanks a ton! The game seems to be running normally now. The fan still does not work but that is the least of my concerns atm. Hopefully I won't have to worry about this for a while.
 
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