Is the NZXT H440 still relevant?

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With this case, you have a small problem. Your GPU is 298mm long while your case supports up to 294mm long GPU. If you want to use your Asus GPU, you need to take out the HDD tray next to the expansion slot to get enough clearance for your GPU.

As far as the rest of your build goes, your PSU is way too powerful for your PC. You'll do fine with 500W range PSU. And since you picked Z170 chipset MoBo, you can use K-series CPU (that you can overclock) and also much faster RAM than 2400 Mhz.

Also, refined your build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($318.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic...

Aeacus

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With this case, you have a small problem. Your GPU is 298mm long while your case supports up to 294mm long GPU. If you want to use your Asus GPU, you need to take out the HDD tray next to the expansion slot to get enough clearance for your GPU.

As far as the rest of your build goes, your PSU is way too powerful for your PC. You'll do fine with 500W range PSU. And since you picked Z170 chipset MoBo, you can use K-series CPU (that you can overclock) and also much faster RAM than 2400 Mhz.

Also, refined your build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($318.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($82.39 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($93.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card ($269.89 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT H440 (Matte Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($67.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1341.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-01 01:14 EDT-0400

Changes made
CPU: i7-6700 -> i7-6700K
CPU cooler: Intel's stock cooler -> Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3
MoBo: Asus Z170 Pro Gaming -> MSI Z170A Gaming M5
RAM: Kingston 2x 16GB 2400 Mhz -> Corsair 2x 8GB 3000 Mhz
SSD: Kingston SSDNow UV400 (240GB) -> Samsung 850 Evo (250GB)
HDD: Seagate (2TB) -> Hitachi (2TB)
GPU: Asus ROG Strix GTX 1060 OC edition 6GB -> MSI GTX 1060 Gaming X 6G
PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower 750W Gold (Modular) -> Seasonic G-550

Reasons why
CPU: With Z-series MoBo, K-series CPU would be nice match since you can overclock the CPU if needed.

CPU cooler: K-series CPU doesn't come with Intel's stock CPU cooler. So, added one of the best big air cooler for CPU cooling that has nice black theme.
Further reading: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpu-coolers,4181.html

MoBo: Since you want to have black & red theme, i switched out your MoBo to better match your build theme.
MoBo specs: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z170A-GAMING-M5.html#hero-specification
(I have the very same MoBo in use in my Skylake build, full specs in my sig.)

RAM: Since Z-series MoBos support RAM XMP profiles, i added 3000 Mhz RAM to your build. MoBo has 4 RAM slots and when needed, you can easily upgrade your RAM from 16GB to 32GB with another set of 2x 8GB 3000 Mhz RAM.
Note: install RAM before installing CPU cooler. It's easier this way.

SSD: Replaced it with better drive while gaining 10GB of storage space.
comparison: http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Kingston-SSDNow-UV400-240GB-vs-Samsung-850-Evo-250GB/m137815vs2977

HDD: Replaced it with more reliable drive. (Note: HGST is new name for Hitachi.)
Further reading: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-stats-q1-2016/

GPU: Replaced the GPU to be better match to the MoBo's black & red theme.
specs: https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1060-GAMING-X-6G.html#hero-specification
MSI GPU is also shorter (277mm) than Asus GPU (298mm) and you don't have to remove HDD tray to fit the GPU inside your PC.

PSU: As said above, 750W PSU is way too much for your system. So, replaced it with good quality Seasonic unit that too is 80+ Gold certified and semi-modular, just like the Thermaltake PSU.

All in all, the refined build costs $90 less than your initial build.

Edit: Fixed typos.
 
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adiec

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relevant.. but i think it is the wrong case for you . so many storage bays that will go either unused or you will have to remove .

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NMkPLD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NMkPLD/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($294.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z270 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($133.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($224.97 @ Jet)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($93.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($379.99 @ Jet)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Acrylic ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1456.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-01 01:33 EDT-0400
 

adiec

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i think if the OP is going to go with a 1060 then they may be better off to go with an i5 and save them selves a few more $$$! the i7 is overkill for that gpu imo.
 

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The thing with PC cases is that they are completely personal choice. If the OP likes the nice black & red theme of NZXT H440 then it would be rude to tell that it's the wrong case. Especially when you replace the case with the one that doesn't share the black & red theme.

For OP:
For a PC case replacement, while keeping the black & red theme, with a bit less drive bays, you can consider Corsair SPEC-ALPHA black/red,
specs: http://www.corsair.com/en-eu/carbide-series-spec-alpha-mid-tower-gaming-case-black-red

Note: Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 doesn't fit into Corsair SPEC-ALPHA. If you plan to go with it, let me know, so that i can refine my suggested build.

Edit:

Since OP hasn't stated the use of his PC, i won't downgrade the initially selected CPU. While in gaming, the i5 is better and cheaper than i7, it isn't so in 3D rendering and video editing.
 

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I wouldn't say an i5 was better than an i7 for gaming. Maybe 1½ years ago it was, but not now. There are simply too many games out there that can and will make use of an i7's 8 threads, including gta:V and BF4, BF1 etc.

The H440 is a well built case, but it does have a few minor drawbacks, mediocre airflow being one.
 

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It's debatable if hyperthreading does help in gaming or not. In most cases, hyperthreading hurts the gaming a little bit.

Here's one study about it with i7-6700K,
link: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/gaming-benchmarks-core-i7-6700k-hyperthreading-test.219417/
 

adiec

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i added the wrong case to my build.. was meant to be the nzxt s340 but my point still stands on why the OP is buying the wrong case. whilst i agree it does look nice .. paying for a lot of features that aren't going to be used with the current selected parts list seems like wasting money. it isn't rude to say why i think it is the wrong case and i hardly think the case i selected which was black was not sticking with the colour theme.. the motherboard provides red ambient LEDs. you wouldn't buy a mini bus instead of a sports car just because of the colour .. would you ?
 

adiec

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my point is that using an i7 with a 1060 gpu is overkill because an i5 will get top performance from the 1060. unless the i7 is going to push the gpu to give say 60+ fps more than the i5 would provide then for the money it's not the correct combination. i'm not saying the i5 is a better cpu for gaming.. i'm saying it's a better cpu for that gpu cost wise .
 

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Since minivan can carry far more stuff than sports car, i'd be happy with my minivan. You never know when you need that extra space. Not to mention that minivan has better looks than sports car.
And when you do need the extra space than your sports car can carry, you have to buy a new car. In this instance, a new PC case. And that, in my opinion, is waste of money.
 

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Ok Aeacus, I see your point, but try to understand mine. I have 2 pc's, an i5-3570k and an i7-3770K. The i7 is paired with a gtx970, so realistically not that far behind a skylake /kaby-lake i7 and 1060. One of the main games I play is skyrim. Normally it's a heavy single thread game, quite playable on a dual core. If stock. However, my version is heavily modded, over 130 HD mods, 2k-4k-8k, flora/fauna/weather/city, enb, character, race, skins etc. To play on my i5, I've had to drop a lot of those mods, not because the gtx660ti can't handle them, but because the i5-3570k can't. It's simply too much. On the i7 I'm using 5, sometimes 6 threads. And that's skyrim. Gta:V is another highly popular game and runs fine stock on a quad. Start introducing mods and that quad runs into trouble, high thread usage that bogs down fps. BF1 is another game that runs high thread usage and really benefits from HT. They'll all run fine on a quad, that's not the issue, they simply run better on a quad with HT, an i7/R7. This trend isn't going away, it's just going to get bigger as more games are mix-matched with what a PS4 /Xbox can do with its 8 threads. Vram usage is increasing, thread usage is increasing, pretty much everything is increasing as resources become available.
For a gaming pc, it wasn't long ago that 4Gb of ram was OK, 8Gb was better, last year 8Gb of ram was sufficient, no need for more, but now today 16Gb of ram is recommended, with 8Gb seen as a minimum for budget pc's.
With Amd partnership in many games coding there will be an increase in optimization of 8 thread usage, justification for use of the R7 cpus. Everything is pointing in the direction of 8 thread usage for optimal game play. Games used to be written based on an i5 as standard average. That's, if not now then very soon, going to change with optimal settings based on an i7/R7 and quad cores bringing up the rear as barely accepted minimum recommended requirements.

If Op wants to keep the pc as a viable platform for more than 2 or so years, an i7 (even a locked version) would be a wiser choice over the i5.

Think of it as a mini-van with a hemi. You'll not usually need all that power, but sooner or later you'll be driving up in the mountains with a van full of kids and luggage. Those with the hemi will be happily speeding up the mountain, those with the 4 cylinders will be chugging along in the slow lane with the engine screaming a slow death.
 

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:D Okay, i got your point.

With mods, it's true that every game uses more resources than the base game. Since i don't use mods by myself and i'm happy with the base game, i didn't consider the mods that can be added to the base game.

In this case, with mods, i7 and it's hyperthreading does help more than i5 without hyperthreading. And if hyperthreading does hurt gameplay in some games, one can always turn the hyperthreading off for time being.
 

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Yeah, gta:V mods especially are brutal, almost entirely cpu bound, as are things like hairworks. Using up thread space just running windows, then adding in Steam or Arc can sometimes put a strain on an i5 capability. Games like Ashes of the Singularity are so badly optimized for i5's that Amd made it the very first optimized game settings for the new R7's.
When you consider that ppl generally keep a cpu/mobo for 3-4 years, and as fast as games are expanding with requirements, getting a pc that'll cover the changes tomorrow just makes more sense than covering what's available today. Sucks that it costs more, but that extra $100 spent today will end far cheaper than $300+ later.
 

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Okay, so my thought proccess is that I can upgrade my GPU without having to change the CPU, as well as this future proofs my PC a bit more.
 

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Okay so I fixed up my build a bit, here is the updated version. I am still trying to save money so I am not going for an unlocked CPU, since I really won't be overclocking. Also, I am going to keep the power supply a 750 watt, since first off all, If I want to upgrade, I will always have enough power, and PS are heavy, so extremely expensive to ship. This means, from my local store this is the only 80+ gold power supply, basically setting me up for success.