Water cooling system died?

cptobviouskyle

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Hello everyone! Let me start off by saying thank you for simply reading this problem... Anyhow... Here goes 3 days of hell for you to enjoy,

Day 1:
It had been a fantastic day, all the way up to the end where friends and I were playing drunk player unknowns battlegrounds. Around 1 am, when I was rather tipsy, my computer immediately shut off. I gave it another turn on immediately thinking "that was strange." However when it turned on... Everything inside seemed to work just fine. However nothing would boot and I wouldn't get any errors... Anyhow, I literally reset it twice... It came on! Yay! I decided to troubleshoot... Everything checks out... Wait... I'm running at 60 degrees Celsius?! But I'm not running ANUTHING. Normally my computer runs at a solid 20 degrees Celsius with nothing on. I take a look into the computer and notice the pump isn't pumping! I give her a restart... Nothing. I remove the radiator and try giving it a tilt to see if there's an air bubble... Nothing. I remove the 8-pin to the cpu and reconnect... Eureka! Everything seems to be fine again! Until...
Day 2:
Day 2 was fairly uneventful, until again the pump stopped pumping entirely... However a small rock back and forth got it going... Yay!
Day 3:
So welcome to my present! This is the real hell day... I should probably start this by saying my computer the night before had been processing videos all night. I came downstairs to find my computer dead? What it was supposed to be processing? Turned it on... Oh shit... It's not pumping... I tried rocking it slowly back and forth. Nothing... I tried pulling the 8 pin and replacing it... Nothing... I removed the radiator and the pins connecting to the pump and reconnected... Nothing... I get desperate... I leave the cpu turned on its side and start it up... Wait! The pump! It seems it's pumping on its side?! Aaaannnddd it's off... I try this several times more... It stops working... I get desperate again. I take off the reservoir from the cpu and give it a look over... Seems fine? I replace it back on the computer, hoping that me turning the reservoir may have unblocked something. I give it a turn on... I get a boot error... It asks me to reset my boot... IT WOULD NOT LET ME PAST THIS SCREEN. Why is this so frustrating you may ask? Because I overclocked the hell out of this system from a 3.6 ghz speed to a 4.7... I was looking at hours gone. It started up.. Everything seems fine... Until the computer started being extremely loud... I can only imagine that this is the fans working triple overtime to cool things down. Whilst running nothing at all I check the temps... They read 80 degrees Celsius... I begin to sob... No but seriously I'm going nuts in my head... Any suggestions?

Here's my specs,

Cpu: AMD FX bulldozer chip.
Ram: muchen 16 gigs of 2100 hz ddr3
Psu: 800w topower
Graphics card: GeForce 1070 evga overclocked
Motherboard: 990fxa-ud3 r5 by gigabyte
Hard drives: 480 solid state pny
2, 1 terabyte hard drives both by wd
Radiator: made by Raijintek

Thank you, for anyone who even looks over this mess it means a lot
 
Solution
Common issue with some all in one coolers, air locks. There is still air in the cooler that gets sucked into the pump. Air is compressible, liquid is not, so the pump is unable to push the air bubble through the cooler. This is why powering on/off or otherwise 'moving' the system causes it to function again.

Go with a good air cooler if you are on a budget. Cheap liquid cooling exists just to say you have liquid cooling - it doesn't offer much benefit in actually cooling over decent air cooling.

Seanie280672

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I would say you need a new pump, if its an AIO cooler, then you need a new cooler, the reason the fans are blasting away at full speed, is they work off what you CPU temp is, and your CPU is basically being passively cooled if the pump isnt working, the water isnt flowing and not getting cooled down by the radiator, its sitting static in the water block and doesnt take long at all to heat up to max temps.

I would say, Day 1 and day 2 you got lucky getting it to work again, I would never of left my computer on overnight unattended with these problems.

when your system was sitting idle you were at 80oC, im pretty sure this is the CPU's limits, so imagine what they were at whilst rendering video's overnight ? a very CPU intensive multi threaded task., I wouldnt keep trying to get it going before you get another cooler on there or another pump, otherwise you are going to kill something.

Your CPU should be fine, they have limits where they shut the system down if they get too hot.

 

cptobviouskyle

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cptobviouskyle said:
Hello everyone! Let me start off by saying thank you for simply reading this problem... Anyhow... Here goes 3 days of hell for you to enjoy,

Day 1:
It had been a fantastic day, all the way up to the end where friends and I were playing drunk player unknowns battlegrounds. Around 1 am, when I was rather tipsy, my computer immediately shut off. I gave it another turn on immediately thinking "that was strange." However when it turned on... Everything inside seemed to work just fine. However nothing would boot and I wouldn't get any errors... Anyhow, I literally reset it twice... It came on! Yay! I decided to troubleshoot... Everything checks out... Wait... I'm running at 60 degrees Celsius?! But I'm not running ANUTHING. Normally my computer runs at a solid 20 degrees Celsius with nothing on. I take a look into the computer and notice the pump isn't pumping! I give her a restart... Nothing. I remove the radiator and try giving it a tilt to see if there's an air bubble... Nothing. I remove the 8-pin to the cpu and reconnect... Eureka! Everything seems to be fine again! Until...
Day 2:
Day 2 was fairly uneventful, until again the pump stopped pumping entirely... However a small rock back and forth got it going... Yay!
Day 3:
So welcome to my present! This is the real hell day... I should probably start this by saying my computer the night before had been processing videos all night. I came downstairs to find my computer dead? What it was supposed to be processing? Turned it on... Oh shit... It's not pumping... I tried rocking it slowly back and forth. Nothing... I tried pulling the 8 pin and replacing it... Nothing... I removed the radiator and the pins connecting to the pump and reconnected... Nothing... I get desperate... I leave the cpu turned on its side and start it up... Wait! The pump! It seems it's pumping on its side?! Aaaannnddd it's off... I try this several times more... It stops working... I get desperate again. I take off the reservoir from the cpu and give it a look over... Seems fine? I replace it back on the computer, hoping that me turning the reservoir may have unblocked something. I give it a turn on... I get a boot error... It asks me to reset my boot... IT WOULD NOT LET ME PAST THIS SCREEN. Why is this so frustrating you may ask? Because I overclocked the hell out of this system from a 3.6 ghz speed to a 4.7... I was looking at hours gone. It started up.. Everything seems fine... Until the computer started being extremely loud... I can only imagine that this is the fans working triple overtime to cool things down. Whilst running nothing at all I check the temps... They read 80 degrees Celsius... I begin to sob... No but seriously I'm going nuts in my head... Any suggestions?

Here's my specs,

Cpu: AMD FX bulldozer chip.
Ram: muchen 16 gigs of 2100 hz ddr3
Psu: 800w topower
Graphics card: GeForce 1070 evga overclocked
Motherboard: 990fxa-ud3 r5 by gigabyte
Hard drives: 480 solid state pny
2, 1 terabyte hard drives both by wd
Radiator: made by Raijintek

Thank you, for anyone who even looks over this mess it means a lot


I would say you need a new pump, if its an AIO cooler, then you need a new cooler, the reason the fans are blasting away at full speed, is they work off what you CPU temp is, and your CPU is basically being passively cooled if the pump isnt working, the water isnt flowing and not getting cooled down by the radiator, its sitting static in the water block and doesnt take long at all to heat up to max temps.

I would say, Day 1 and day 2 you got lucky getting it to work again, I would never of left my computer on overnight unattended with these problems.

when your system was sitting idle you were at 80oC, im pretty sure this is the CPU's limits, so imagine what they were at whilst rendering video's overnight ? a very CPU intensive multi threaded task., I wouldnt keep trying to get it going before you get another cooler on there or another pump, otherwise you are going to kill something.

Your CPU should be fine, they have limits where they shut the system down if they get too hot.


I'm literally heading off to Best Buy now to see if buying and replacing the pump will get it going! After listening I can hear the pump going god damn nuts but nothing's being pumped. Thanks for the recommendation I'll give that a try!
 

rubix_1011

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Common issue with some all in one coolers, air locks. There is still air in the cooler that gets sucked into the pump. Air is compressible, liquid is not, so the pump is unable to push the air bubble through the cooler. This is why powering on/off or otherwise 'moving' the system causes it to function again.

Go with a good air cooler if you are on a budget. Cheap liquid cooling exists just to say you have liquid cooling - it doesn't offer much benefit in actually cooling over decent air cooling.
 
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Seanie280672

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AIO's dont get air locks, never known one to anyway, they are factory sealed units, no serviceable parts, except maybe change the fans, but thats about it.