Gtx 1060 6gb + Pentium G4560 vs RX 470 I5 7400.

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if you go with the 1060 6gb + g4560 plus the components below and upgrade to the i5 7500 when possible that would be a good idea.
let other people give you their advice first though because someone may find something i missed .(i think it is possible to go with the i5 7400 1060 seasonic psu and 1tb hdd.. if someone puts that build together and you're happy with it then go for it . i am not able to give it my full attention...
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I would go the RX 470 + i5 7400. Sure the GTX 1060 6GB is the more powerful card since it competes with the RX 480, but i believe the Pentium would bottleneck the 1060 in most modern games where as the RX 470 is a good pairing. Don't get me wrong that G4560 is a monster for the price and the best budget CPU of this generation but it all comes down to overall performance and in most games and applications the i5 would be the better choice even if with a weaker GPU. You can always upgrade the GPU or add a second for CrossFire down the line anyway and not have to worry about the CPU being an issue. Hope this helps :)

The deciding factor would be what games do you play + any applications you use? If rendering/editing a bit then the i5 combo would be the hands down choice.
 
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I'm new to gaming so i'm not so sure yet. But i'm looking at Rise of the tomb raider, Far cry Primal,BF1,Dota 2,Dishonored 2 and other Triple AAA games. I don't do editing. And my budget. Around 620 - 630 bucks.
 
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If you have money to spend on a better GPU down the line, I would take Cross's advice. If not, then I'd get the 1060 - you can always crank up GPU related settings to squeeze more out of your card.
 
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the better choice would be i5 7400 with an rx 480 because in most places there isn't too much price difference between the rx 470 and the 480. i know that wasn't one of the choices! but if you could find an rx 480 around the same price point as the 470 then you would have quite the combination. but then i guess it wasn't an option.. so go with the g4560 + either a 1060 or rx 480 .. the 1060 and rx 480 are very similar in performance.. so find which ever is cheaper.. the g4560 is a great cpu for the price (i have one paired with the rx 480 8gb red devil)
 
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600 us dollars ? is that for a whole build or just the cpu and gpu ? if it is for the whole build then definitely go with the g4560.
 
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Whole build.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7400 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($59.92 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($21.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 480 8GB ARMOR 8G OC Video Card ($219.99 @ Jet)
Case: BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($47.89 @ B&H)
Total: $629.66
 
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PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xW7VRG
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xW7VRG/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z270M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($63.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 480 4GB Dual Video Card ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($62.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $637.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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gone with a z270 motherboard to give you the upgrade path of faster ram , the ability to overclock if you decide in future to upgrade your cpu to a K version cpu ie i5 7600k i7 7700k.. or their 6th gen relatives. great quality psu which is fully modular (helps with cable management) an m.2 ssd for a speedy drive with very quick loading times.. also helps to make your build look nice without all the power cables and sata cables.
 
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The above builds have crippling factors in them which make them poor choices for builds.
sadams04's build has an i5 7400 which performs quite a bit worse than a 7500, not that bad a CPU, but not the best value. He's also put in a poor airflow case and only a 320GB HDD which is barely going to hold the OS, software and a few low capacity games.
Adiec's build has an overclocking mobo with a locked CPU, and no hard drive.
You can say that it provides OC potential in the future, but OC CPUs aren't good value unless you're going for an i7 realistically, if you're getting a Z series board, i5 and cooler, it'll end up the same or more expensive than an i7 7700 and decent air cooler which will perform better.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($71.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($53.87 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 480 4GB Video Card ($185.66 @ Jet)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($47.89 @ B&H)
Total: $642.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-04 08:03 EDT-0400
 
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i know. it has a solid state drive in the form of m.2. have i missed something here ? i also pointed out that the op could go to an i7 7700k if he so wished to in the future... in the future could be 2 years away! the price of the i7 7700k might be totally different in 6 months!
 
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Way to be overly dramatic! We are all making concessions at the expense of the budget (which you are over on). You, for example, are recommending single channel memory with reduced performance included. Yes the 7500 is better than the 7400 for more cost. No, 320GB is not too small for an initial build. Note the many many builds in this forum that include a 250GB SSD that holds an OS, apps and games. Yes, the Nova isn't the best case, but with a non-overclocking, single GPU setup, there won't be much heat to dissipate. More budget would be nice.
 
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While the other builds offer their own benefits, I have to second Chugalug's proposed system as being the more well-rounded gaming rig.

The dual memory thing can be worked in for a few more $. Hopefully, the OP is flexible enough to fork in another $50.
 
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for me when i provide a build i don't provide it with the intention to "win" . the amount of threads i see on here where people seem to fight over things my build is better etc.. it's not helpful. the OP may decide i like that case.. that motherboard.. that ram.. that psu and that gpu.. etc.. and the parts happen to come from different suggested builds! and in the end all the information provided has given the poster a more informed choice and varied reasons for upgrade paths.. price//performance .. or what he can get if he spends a little bit more . it's not a competition! choose me! choose me! come on lads.. we're here to help not bicker!
 
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if we all went over the budget though it wouldn't help the op if he is cash strapped or just doesn't want to spend too much .i would like to point out the major flaw in all the builds though..actually 2 flaws.. no o/s and no monitor .. no keyboard or mouse either ! haha
 
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I think i'll just go with an b250 mobo since i'm not an overclocker. I'll also go with a 1TB HDD Dual Channel Ram and a GTX 1060 6GB. As for the case i will go with the diypc-f2-o. Do you think this is good? I'm scared that the pentium might have good fps but have a lot of stutters when it's underload.
 
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i have suffered from no stutters playing gta v with everything turned up to highest apart from MSAA and MSAA shadow reflections - 30=50fps @1080p. i have played doom which ran brilliantly as expected. bf1 ran well but i must say i have only played single player for a small amount of time so i wouldn't vouch for that game but there were no stutters. i haven't suffered any but there maybe games that i don't play that will. watch dogs 2 plays ok but i just can't get into it to give a total review of how well it performs .. just haven't got the urge to get through the early missions yet !

personally if you are going with the b250 board i would go with either i5.. because if you can afford it .. it makes more sense paired with that board .
 
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I tried to make a build with the i5 and the gtx 1060 6gb but. I needed to go for the b250 hdv which only has 2 ram slots. Just use an old 200gb hhd and go for the evga 450b. Do you think all of that is more worth than the build you showed me?
 
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Well, sorry if it sounded a bit dramatic, but 320GB is simply not enough for a gaming system, it's not going to hold anything, and given the low price you can get a 1TB HDD for it seems like a very big oversight.
 
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Realistically you're probably not going to get a 1060 6GB unless you make a few compromises and chuck a bit more at the budget, it's not worth it tbh. You're only missing out on about 10% more performance though, the RX 480 is a much better deal atm.
Go with what I posted, you'll definitely need more than 200-300GB of space, OS can grow to about 100, software takes about 20-50GB depending on what you have installed and games vary, going anywhere from 2GB with indie titles, 20GB or 100GB+ with AAA games.
 
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The DIYPC case is very low quality, stay away from those. :)
This is the minimum you're looking at if you want a 1060 6GB, you can sub in the Zalman T2 if you want for $15 less, but the Fractal is much better quality.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($71.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($53.87 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card ($234.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($47.89 @ B&H)
Total: $686.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-04 09:47 EDT-0400
 
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I agree with the sentiment expressed here. It's not about "winning". At the same time, I also think there's no need to get defensive if someone else critiques your build/opinion. It's all for the benefit of the OP and one might learn a thing or two in the process. :)
 
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Availability of these parts goes down as new tech is introduced, and prices are very unpredictable.
If he was to upgrade, as I mentioned, it would be easier to get a new Z series mobo from the latest chipset and get a k series processor from that since it will most likely use DDR4 memory and perform better. (DDR5 is set to begin rollout in mid 2020).
There's nothing wrong with the SSD, however a 1TB HDD would be a better fit, since OS size can grow over time, and games are getting increasingly larger, with AAA titles taking a massive amount of storage.

 
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