Problem with choosing graphics card

Pilon02 · Apr 4, 2017

I'm having a lot of trouble choosing the right GPU for me. It's either between the gtx 1060 or 1070. The thing is that it feels like if I don't buy one of them there's unwanted negatives like not being as future proof. Then if I do buy the more expensive card it is much more in line with what I want my pc to do but I'm not comfortable spending that amount of money. So I'm asking for help.

I want to play at 1080p, a lot of the time on ultra settings (at least for like 1,5 years) with no less than 60fps and average of about like 85 fps (give or take). Please help me choose the right GPU for me as I would also like to keep the same system for about 4 years. Of course I'm not going to play with the same requirements of ultra settings in 4 years but maybe medium/high.

Another question is if it's better to spend a little less on the 1060 and upgrade a bit earlier or if I should just go big and spend more with the 1070 to have it last longer? Thanks in advance!

okcnaline · Apr 4, 2017

Same thing with water resistance vs. waterproof: you are never future proof.
What's your budget?

Pilon02 · Apr 4, 2017

okcnaline :

My budget is about 1550 euros (might even be less) but do take in account that prices on components in different countries may vary a lot. For example how cheap USA gets especially pc components for.

SkyNetRising · Apr 4, 2017

If you're not comfortable with spending for gtx1070, then there's no question. Go with gtx 1060.

Wait! - 1550€ for a graphics card? You can get 2x gtx 1080 ti for that.

Pilon02 · Apr 4, 2017

Well ok I kind of answered the question incorrectly. What I meant is that I want to spend 1550 € on the whole system.

Pilon02 · Apr 4, 2017

SkyNetRising :

Well the thing is that I might be able to spend more money if it's the better choice in the long run because that is really what I'm most concerned of, if it's going to be good enough to last.

For the moment I only want the truth about performance of the card and then I'll decide if it's enough to spend more on.

okcnaline · Apr 4, 2017

That's a heck of a budget. You can easily get the GTX 1070.

What games will you be playing?

adamscurr · Apr 4, 2017

Ok... Let me give you me system and expense and I think you could do pretty well with your price... My expense in in American dollars, but you can do the conversion and I think the Euro still has an advantage on the dollar... So you should do alright...

i7 6700k (329.00 on sale on new egg, you would probably want the 7700k these days)
Asus ROG Hero Alpha Board (open box, but came with same warranty on new egg, 200 dollars)
16 gb Trident 3200 Ram (109.00 on sale as well)
Corsair H110i Cooler (119.00)
Roswell 1000w modular (I had this already from last build, but I just priced it 149.00)
THermaltake Core v71 case (129.00 is a big case, but has a lot of fans, I like it)
Asus ROG Strix 1080 (580.00 on sale, It's the advanced version but it OCed awesome, so I recommend it over the OC version).

That's 1635.00 American... Which according to conversions, comes to 1535.00 Euros... In your budget with a 1080... That should run your games for a long time at max settings... I added some more fans to my rig (two 120 mm on bottom and an additional 200mm on top, but they are cheap).

I hope that helps... You could build a similar system for a similar price if you watch out for deals... You could go with a much less powerful PSU and save some money... I sued to run a number of GPU's on my last system and had a lot of extra power for it... You could also use air cooling to save some more money, though my corsair runs like a champ... Also, I'm figuring you have a lot of hard drives and such so I didn't price them...

Adam

spdragoo · Apr 4, 2017

Pilon02 :

Well, that's going to depend quite a bit on the rest of the budget then, & the non-GPU choices you've made:
-- Are you picking Intel or AMD?
-- Either way, are you planning to OC or not? Either way, the OC-capable motherboards are more expensive, but with Intel you also pay more for the "K" chips, plus you have to budget at least another 15-50 euros for a CPU cooler since Intel doesn't provide them; AMD on their new Ryzen chips is at least providing a stock cooler, & for the high-end 1700X/180)X chips it will actually let you get a light OC out of the chip
-- Have you decided on the DDR4 RAM speed you want? Faster can be better, but if DDR4 is like DDR3 the benefits start dropping off the faster you go, & the faster RAM is always more expensive
-- What kind of SSD are you getting, SATA III, PCIe, or M.2? And are you planning to supplement the SSD with a high-capacity HDD for secondary/file storage, or hoping that a single large SSD will be enough (even though they'll cost a lot more for a lot less storage)?
-- Are there any specific features you're looking for on the motherboard: RAID support, built-in WiFi, SLI/CrossFire capability, extra SATA III/eSATA ports, USB 3.1 Type C, premium built-in sound, etc.

If your budget gets to the point that you can spend 300-400 euros, then by all means go with the GTX 1070 so that you have plenty of horsepower for the future. But if even 300 euros for the GPU is going to stretch it, or if that means the difference between getting at least a 4C/4T or better CPU & a 2C/4T CPU, then stick with the GTX 1060 (or even the RX 480 or the upcoming RX 580 rebrands) for now.

okcnaline · Apr 4, 2017

What games do you plan to play?

Pilon02 · Apr 4, 2017

adamscurr :

Well I'm very thankful for you putting time and effort into figuring out a system but the thing is a build like that in My country would cost up to 2000 dollars! And that's waay over my budget and usually the same amount of money in Europe with a 1060 build is like a hardcore pc enthusiast build in USA. You're lucky living there (at least somewhat).

Pilon02 · Apr 4, 2017

spdragoo :

Well this is what I'm thinking of buying

Specs:
CPU: intel core i5 7600k
GPU: asus strix gtx 1070/1060 oc
PSU: evga supernova g2 650w
Case: fractal design r5
CPU cooler: hyper 212 evo
Mobo: asus prime z270-a
HDD: wd blue 1tb 7200rpm
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 500gb
Ram: corsair vengeance lpx black 16gb (2x8) PC24000/3000MHz CL15

This is about 1660 € with the 1070 and about 1530 € with the 1060. So components in my country (sweden, i know ive been using euros and not my currency but it's just to be as universal as possible) are much more expensive.

Pilon02 · Apr 4, 2017

okcnaline :

I plan to play single player games that are pretty demanding like witcher 3 where i world very much like to set everything to ultra and get a stable 70 fps or so

spdragoo · Apr 4, 2017

Pilon02 :

That's not a bad build. Only a couple of things I'm seeing:

1. I'm assuming you plan to overclock the system, & that you plan to do so from the start (or at least in the very near future, like maybe a month or so). If you don't plan on overclocking in the near future, though, you might want to consider dropping down to a non-"K" CPU. Dropping down to the i5-7600 saves you about 47 €, while the i5-7500 would save about 87 € (that's including the cheaper CPU & not having to buy a CPU cooler). The performance drop-off is going to be very slight...but again, that only saves you the cash if you're not going to overclock for a while.

2. Just a personal preference, but I would consider dropping the SSD down to the 250GB model. That'll save you about 78 €. And if you need more storage in the future, you can always add another HDD (that's my current setup, 250GB SSD & two 1TB HDDs).

Going with the i5-7600 & a smaller SSD drops your GTX 1070 build down in price to ~1535 €, using the i5-7500 drops it down to ~1495 €. That would give you a decent Kaby Lake/GTX 1070 build that would come under your budget.

okcnaline · Apr 4, 2017

Pilon02 :

Alright, Witcher? I guess you're playing predominantly DX 11 games. The GTX 1070 is your best bet for that.

Pilon02 · Apr 4, 2017

okcnaline :

Well not only dx11 games. Ofcourse im going to play other titles when the years come. Mostly AAA games.

okcnaline · Apr 4, 2017

I know, but aside from Hitman, there isn't much noticeable DX12 single-player games.

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