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So, I went on PCpartpicker.com and went on to build my own pc, using the AMD Ryzen 1800x and even a AMD graphics card (i will post the link to the list below). It was hard choosing a motherboard and a cpu cooler that would work together with the cpu, and I am not sure about the case fans. By the way, my budget for this pc is not to spend too much, but above 1k is fine. Any suggestions for my pc list, like will it work, or any things I should watch out for, or something I should add? Thanks in advance.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qzgbD8

Oh, and this will be my first time building a pc. (hoping for a good gaming pc)

New Updated Parts List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R7vZD8
 
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"Wait". On everything. As noted, R5s tomorrow... Vega soon after. Wait. See what the reviews and benchmarks are looking like and you may find that getting an R5 is more than enough CPU for you while saving some money to allocate to another area, such as a fancy new GPU...Nvidia or AMD. Motherboards are hard to source, depending on which one you favor and honestly, every day/week that goes by, your Mobo headaches are less likely to come up. RAM is the same story, other than a few well know working makes/models and you want 3200+ speed RAM.

"Patience" is truly a virtue with AMD right now. If you can stand it, wait. Just a little longer.
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Is the difference in cpu power totally different between the two? or is there just a slight drawback? If so, I'll happily choose a 1700x over a 1800x
 
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If you are okay with Overclocking there are loads of videos online of people simply buying the cheapest Ryzen 1700 and overclocking it to 1800X speeds with the same performance provided you have an unlocked Motherboard and modest cooler.
 
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cpu power? in physics, power is defined as work over time. The 1700x can overclock the same as an 1800x, up to 3.9-4.0 ghz depending on your aftermarket cpu cooler. However, the XFR (extended frequency range) is more of a competitive feature versus Intel's turbo boost (temporarily increases core speeds in certain applications). This is great for laptops and certain applications; however, it's negligible in my book when you overclock your CPU anyways (the drawback is more power consumption, yet consistent performance).

The performance gap is anywhere from 1-3% at stock speeds, while the value on the 1700x is around 16-20% cheaper. Read thorough reviews or watch youtube if you want to compare the differences between the two.

You could save that extra $100 for another ssd/HDD, graphics card, sound card, memory or better cpu cooler IMO.

ps what is your intention of your computer?
 
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yeah, I was looking to that. People would just overclock the 1700 in the BIOS and get similar results to the 1800x. I might just get the 1700, since i save money anyway. :)

 
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Im trying to use this pc for mainly gaming, but also loading up some softwares like Unity to create video games. i was considering just getting the 1700x, but i might just get 1700, since when overclocked, it has similar capabilities as the 1800x. And do you have any reccommendations for cpu coolers that work with the amd ryzen?

 
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Compatibility list > https://www.mwave.com.au/blog/2017/2/27/amd-ryzen-am4-cpu-coolers-compatibility-list.

Depends how much you want to spend. Arguably the best budget air coolers are the Cryorig H7 (apparently not yet supported though) and Cooler Master Evo 212X, the Corsair H60 is a good cheap liquid cooler as well. But if you are more flexible look into rather a Corsair H110i and NZXT Kraken X51 for Liquid or a Noctua DH-15 for Air. But it depends where you are buying and how much you want to spend.
 
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Also, is my graphics card good enough for AAA games? Or are there other cards out there in the similar price range that can do the job better?
 
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I'll definitely consider those options :)

 
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Yes an 8GB RX 480 is a great Graphics card for modern games at 1080p High/Ultra with good framerates. One thing i noticed with your build is you added an Ethernet (LAN cable) PCI adaptor but your Motherboard already comes with one built in, just checking you are aware of this.
 
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what kind of monitor are you getting or do you have? also the AMD RX 500 series will come shortly this month if you want to wait. It's a mild upgrade / refresh by the way, but is expected to be released around April 18th after the Ryzen 5 launch after April 11th. 480/580 is good for 1080p though and can later have crossfire options, unlike the gtx 1060.

Since you're managing a budget, your pc build looks fine. however, i'll drop in my two cents in considering an air cooler rather than a liquid cooler. The corsair h60 is a bit old, dating back since 2011. I'd rather get a cyrorig H5 to compliment your motherboard and cool off the VRM area of your motherboard. The liquid cooler lasts a few years, then has to be replaced (since liquid corrosion occurs internally in the pump). As for a heatsink + fan cooler, you only need to manage the fan as replaceable. There's not obstruction with figuring out where to put in the radiator. Also, a general guideline is the more heatpipes, the better the heat dissipation if you want a good cpu air cooler. Liquid cooling does have drawbacks if you want to do further research on google. It does look nice and has some advantages; don't get me wrong. I like to have it in micro atx builds for example. However, just consider that if you have time.
 
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I was always unsure whether i should go with a water cooler or a fan cooler, but I just chose the water cooler since it was more cosmetic. Now that I look at it, I might as well choose a fan cooler. Thanks for the suggestion! :)

 
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Oh thanks, I didn't realize I added a PCI adapter onto the list. :p
 
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Also, I've found some great prices for a GTX 1080 as low as $350 on ebay, so should I choose that over the RX 480, or should I just wait for the RX Vega?
 
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"Wait". On everything. As noted, R5s tomorrow... Vega soon after. Wait. See what the reviews and benchmarks are looking like and you may find that getting an R5 is more than enough CPU for you while saving some money to allocate to another area, such as a fancy new GPU...Nvidia or AMD. Motherboards are hard to source, depending on which one you favor and honestly, every day/week that goes by, your Mobo headaches are less likely to come up. RAM is the same story, other than a few well know working makes/models and you want 3200+ speed RAM.

"Patience" is truly a virtue with AMD right now. If you can stand it, wait. Just a little longer.
 
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Yeah, I was planning on actually waiting, since AMD are releasing all this new hardware that looks great for my build. Thanks for the suggestion anyhow :)
 
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