i7 7700k With Kraken x62 Spiking Temps

andrewman447

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Hi, my temps are pretty high for an AIO, and I wanted your guys' inputs. I've reapplied thermal paste multiple times and my cooler is screwed on very tightly onto the board. What do you guys think it is? I have it clocked at 4.5 GHz but was getting the same issues with the factory clock. I'll be in a game and out of nowhere it will spike to like 88C.

Prime95: https://gyazo.com/e18d899bd0111f106de29303cf357d94

Thanks!
 
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andrewman447,

Q - What is your ambient temperature?
Q - Which version of Prime95?

Do not use versions of Prime95 later than 26.6. Recent versions such as 28.9 run AVX code on the CPU's Floating Point Unit (FPU) which causes unrealistic temperatures up to 20°C higher. The FPU test in the utility AIDA64 shows similar results.

Here's the recommended operating range for Core temperature:

80°C Hot (100% Load)
75°C Warm
70°C Warm (Heavy Load)
60°C Norm
50°C Norm (Medium Load)
40°C Norm
30°C Cool (Idle)
25°C Cool

Intel's specification for Digital Thermal...
You have one core that isn't as good as the others as its hitting 83c. The others are in line with normal temps. This is Kaby Lake temps due to the poor thermal interface between the "lid" and the CPU. Can you back down on voltage some and see if you OC is stable? If you want better temps likely will have to delid the CPU.
 

mrobscura

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this is an issue with kaby. or at least the 7700k im on my second and still have this issue after upgrading my cooling to a h115i from a h7. it didnt help temps at all because 1-2 cores like to randomly spike. likely do to poor quality control by intel regarding the tim.

some spiking into the 60s or even 70s when opening apps or loading games is normal due to the 7700ks design, but 80s gaming probably isnt. sounds like you, and like others of us here, got one of the crappier chips. my chip wont run stable past 4.7 regardless of voltage and temps get insane.
 

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andrewman447,

Q - What is your ambient temperature?
Q - Which version of Prime95?

Do not use versions of Prime95 later than 26.6. Recent versions such as 28.9 run AVX code on the CPU's Floating Point Unit (FPU) which causes unrealistic temperatures up to 20°C higher. The FPU test in the utility AIDA64 shows similar results.

Here's the recommended operating range for Core temperature:

80°C Hot (100% Load)
75°C Warm
70°C Warm (Heavy Load)
60°C Norm
50°C Norm (Medium Load)
40°C Norm
30°C Cool (Idle)
25°C Cool

Intel's specification for Digital Thermal Sensor (DTS) accuracy is +/- 5°C. This means deviations between the highest and lowest Cores can be up to 10°C. Since yours is 11°C, it's out of spec. If your TIM is indeed properly applied, then an 11°C deviation at 100% workload typically means that the TIM between the Die and Integrated Heat Spreader (IHS) is flawed from the factory. Can you still RMA?



Intel’s specification for DTS response time is 256 milliseconds, or about 1/4th of a second. Since Windows has dozens of Processes and Services running in the background, it’s normal to see rapid and random Core temperature “spikes” or fluctuations, especially during the first few minutes after startup. Excessive spiking is often caused by unnecessary tray startup services which consume CPU cycles and memory resources.

6th and 7th Generation processors have "Speed Shift" technology, which is more responsive to changes in workload than "SpeedStep" used on 4th Generation and previous processors. Speed Shift is internally controlled by the CPU, whereas SpeedStep is controlled by the Operating System. Speed Shift is more energy efficient as it has more clock and voltage levels, but produces more pronounced temperature spikes than SpeedStep.

Core temperature spiking is not caused by TIM. However, the better the TIM and cooler, and the lower the Core temperatures, the less pronounced the spiking. These figures from Silicon Lottery - https://siliconlottery.com/collections/all/products/del... - will give you an idea of just how poorly Intel's TIM really performs:

"Temperature improvements vary depending on processor sample and architecture. Temperatures under an overclocked load (1.3V-1.4V) will decrease anywhere from 5° to 25°C. Typical temperature improvements are listed below:"

Ivy Bridge - 10°C to 25°C
Haswell - 10°C to 25°C
Devil's Canyon - 7°C to 15°C
Broadwell - 8°C to 18°C
Skylake - 8°C to 18°C
Kaby Lake - 12° to 25°C

Just to help put Core temperatures into perspective, I'm running a de-lidded 7700K on a Cooler Master TPC 812, which a large single tower air cooler with push-pull fans curved to reach 100% RPM at 70°C. The TIM between the Die and IHS is Cool Laboratory Liquid Ultra, and the TIM between the IHS and cooler is Arctic MX-4. I'm overclocked to 5.0 GHz at 1.373 Vcore in CPU-Z with Prime95 version 26.6 Small FFT's. I have no need for liquid cooling as my hottest Core is 73°C at 22°C ambient temperature in a modified Antec 902 v3 case with impeccable cable management.

CT :sol:
 
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andrewman447

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Sorry for the late reply, so I've upgraded from a 4930k (i know it's not much of an upgrade in terms of performance) and I did not have any issues with my AIO with that CPU. But with this one, I've been using a Kraken x42 currently, it will constantly spike up despite having RMA'd one cooler and reapplying thermal paste multiple times. A lot of people are recommending to lower the voltage, what do you think I should do about that? I have a ASUS Z270E board, and I've never dealt with ASUS's bios before so I'm a bit confused on where to find everything. Ambient temps are actually really cool, so I can't imagine that being an issue.

I know I can definitely RMA it if I need to since I bought it from Amazon haha.



These two spikes from last night are from when I was downloading two games: https://gyazo.com/9ea6612aa62b6c32999f480dfb23413d