Xbox Scorpio better than 1300$ gaming pc?

One thing that is important is that the Scorpio will most likely not be running games with maximum settings. We have seen the PS4 Pro (which is a bit weaker) not only fail to render at native 4k, but also with poor performance and reduced settings.

The scorpio spec is very close to an RX 480. And I can get a select few games to run at 4k60 with max settings if I disable all Anti Aliasing.

You also have to consider the fact that the Scorpio CPU is basically a more efficient and overclocked Xbone CPU. An Overclocked 7600K will most likely dust it.

While the Scorpio is impressive, I believe a 7600K and a 1070 will produce a better experience at 4k. I'm predicting that the Scorpio will run hot and loud, as well as taking tradeoffs in certain graphical elements (such as GoW4 running particles at 30Hz).

Scorpio will be great for consoles Im sure. I mainly game on my PC, but do have an XBone for times on the couch. I wouldn't worry about Scorpio beating a PC in that price range. As for the monitor, do you need 60hz, 144hz, Gsync, etc? There are a ton of good ones out there.

The Scorpio will be the first console to have near gaming PC performance. If you want that route you will never regret it and you will enjoy it.

But keep in mind that the Scorpio will be released at the end of the year , and by that time The PC performance will jump again with the next Gen GPU...

so if you want to wait , dont buy the PC now at all and buy it later on when next Gen GPU is released.

so if you want to compare with the Scorpio , compare at its release date not today .

The scorpio will not give you 60 fps 4K gaming , it will give you 30fps on 4k nothing more and the detail setting will be lower than PC setting for sure .

but if you ask me ? it is really cheap for what it can do and it is worth it if you want to save money and you will enjoy gaming on it.

Gaming on Consoles will not slow down because they are made to run on a single hardware and is optimized to do that. unlike the PC , there are more software layers .. that is the same game on xbox will run faster than on PC with the same hardware for the better optimization and direct hardware access .

1) PC runs other programs
2) PC can do keyboard/mouse style games. Heck, 4K is ideal for a lot of these RTS games like Starcraft 2, Warhammer 40K, CIV5

3) on PC I'd run at 2560x1440 anyway unless the game can handle 4K on high or near highest settings. 4K often doesn't look much better than 2560x1440 anyway.
4) Scorpio isn't even out yet so we can only take their word for it so far. It definitely won't be every game.

5) Scorpio's CPU probably can't handle a lot of games at 60FPS. Especially games already made for XBOX ONE. Yes, Scorpio supposedly has a hardware, x86 thingy to automate draw calls but we have NO solid evidence on how that can improve the FPS. I highly doubt it's as significant as they'd like to believe (also probably has to be something the game developer codes specifically for so they'd have to recode older games.

Since jumping 30FPS to 60FPS is hard, AND the fact that they still have to run games on the XBOX ONE I don't think 60FPS is going to be as common as many think.

If you understand how to PROGRAM then you can appreciate that it's relatively EASY to code a game to run 4K at 60FPS if ONLY working on the Scorpio. How does that work when you also do the base XBOX ONE? If you already use the XBOX ONE CPU about 100% then you've only got the overclock amount left for the 4K Scorpio. You are going to USE some of those cycles for HDR. Some for the increased draw calls of 4K resolution.

That's going to pretty much eat up all the CPU cycles, so how much can that x86 hardware thing help? Unless it can boost FPS by 200% it can't get us from 30FPS to 60FPS. Now, I'm obviously OVERSIMPLIFYING but unless a company spends a lot of resources re-tweaking the code 60FPS will be difficult.

So we just don't know do we?

6) PC has a lot more flexibility in how you adjust the settings (though that means you should learn how to TWEAK games optimally as well... i.e. how does Adaptive VSYNC work?)

7) GSYNC is awesome. Too expensive for most right now, but later you could add a GSYNC monitor if you want and really take advantage of things.

8) Virtual Reality - PC is really where it's at. Prices are dropping. Will Scorpio get VR support? When? How many games by say 2018?

9) COST OF GAMES - they are cheaper on PC. Heck, I shopped around and just got a game for $10 (CDN) that was $60 on the XBOX ONE and I couldn't get it cheaper. Found Shadows of Mordor complete for $10 too.

10) NETWORK - PC doesn't have the same monthly fee. Yes, there are "free" games and benefits on the console so it's hard to compare but if we ignore that then the ($60?) per year adds up over five years.

Let's say that's $300 and also say you save $600 over five years for games (it's easier than you might think). That's $900 right there. But...

If your funds are tight, AND you don't buy many games and just want to kick back on the couch and play then SCORPIO might be ideal for you. Desktop PC really isn't ideal for the living room area. That's something STEAMOS has tried (and so far failed) to do because you want it to be SIMPLE.

SCORPIO has other pros like easy Netflix, recording of video etc. Sure you can do these on PC but console tends to simplify this. You also tend to have far less issues. It's not uncommon to have some Windows 10 issue that is hard to fix.

SUMMARY:
It's not a simple choice. You really have to weigh all the pros and cons.

I have the luxury of buying both. I have a GTX1080 desktop PC and the Scorpio will be for the kids in the living room (mainly so they stop bugging me). I am excited to try the Scorpio and compare though.

Also you ideally want a 4K HDTV with proper HDR support, AND you need to investigate the INPUT LATENCY of the HDTV as some aren't ideal for gaming. Some can be improved by disabling settings (that process video) but ideally you get when where there is a "GAMING" mode that just disables all that stuff.