GPU or Software? 7 year old Nvidia GTX460 crashes when playing games & sometimes video. Up to date drivers, Win 10 OS

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I have a 7 year old Lenovo Idea Centre K330. Everything seems to be working like a dream and though I often leave the computer on stand by, I don't think I've ever overheated it.

Recently, I cleaned out the inside of the PC of all dust and did a semi-clean install (I kept all my private files). After updating the drivers, the PC works again, but not for games. I had a past issue with black screen, and was able to get the PC working properly. But again, can't play games. I checked the crash report on the reliability monitor and it confirmed a livekernal failure and lastly, I saw on my device manager that there was a problem with my Nvidia Graphics Card (code 43).

It can't be drivers, those are up to date. It can't be malware or a virus, I've cleaned my pc as well as possible before actually dumping all files and starting with a fresh PC. (I have back-ups, I just think its drastic to do that).

The livekernal codes went from code 193 to a 141. I'm not sure what these Kernals mean since there's no reference points to it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Past Report. Please note that sometimes Parameter 2 would be ffffffffc000009a
Description
A problem with your hardware caused Windows to stop working correctly.

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: LiveKernelEvent
Code: 193
Parameter 1: 804
Parameter 2: ffffffffc0000001
Parameter 3: 1
Parameter 4: 0
OS version: 10_0_14393
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 768_1
OS Version: 10.0.14393.2.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 1033

Extra information about the problem
Bucket ID: 0x193_DxgkrnlLiveDump:804_Status_0xC0000001_Failed_to_find_valid_blob_type_dxgkrnl!DxgCreateLiveDumpWithWdLogs
Server information: 883363ab-af56-47dd-a22b-8fe1459eb38d


Most Recent Report. Also includes other parameters; will list below
Description
A problem with your hardware caused Windows to stop working correctly.

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: LiveKernelEvent
Code: 141
Parameter 1: ffffe6894fa164a0
Parameter 2: fffff80a8892e0a4
Parameter 3: 0
Parameter 4: 0
OS version: 10_0_14393
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 768_1
OS Version: 10.0.14393.2.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 1033

Extra information about the problem
Bucket ID: LKD_0x141_Tdr:6_IMAGE_nvlddmkm.sys_Fermi_3D
Server information: 8cc471fa-8097-4c34-93ff-15dfead6b541

Additional Parameters for most recent report
Parameter 1: ffffc188edba54a0
Parameter 2: fffff8079cf4e0a4
Parameter 3: 0
Parameter 4: 1dc4
 
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Not sure what you mean, install the card in another system, see if it runs. Does not have to be your system, if a friend has a system to test it in try that. There is no real easy way to test the card outside of running it in a known good system. Unless you just replace it and the new card works fine, then you can tell it was the card at fault.
 
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Can you explain the crash? Is it like a buzzing noise that requires a hard reboot or like.. a crash with an error code beforehand?
I've had realtek Audio drivers cause issues with a computer and it would basically make a loud buzzing noise during a game and you had to hard boot the PC (as in hold the power button and have it turn off and on that way or unplug it). I installed the default sound drivers instead from Windows and refused to let it update the realtek drivers and that has fixed this issue for me for 3 computers so far. I just had a friend with that issue and I teamviewered in and fixed it by doing a strong uninstall with revo for realtek.
Have you tried using geforce experience? There was literally an update yesterday too.
 
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Hi faiek,

No, there was no sound. All that happened was that the screen went black and the computer will try to restart. I'd see the Lenovo logo screen, and then the computer would just stay black after. I wouldn't be able to hit control alt delete to reset the computer, and I could not get a response from the mouse. When I was able to update the driver, my Nvidia card did work for a while, but then crashed yet again even though I wasn't playing any hard games. At this point, I have yet to test the graphic card, but I do believe it has to be something wrong with the graphic card itself since the crash happened twice, did not work with older driver settings on windows 10, and crashed after new driver settings on windows 10.

Even if I want to test the card, I have to get a new machine. So I'm not sure what to spend my money on. If I get a brand-new state-of-the-art graphics card, is it going to be compatible with my seven-year-old motherboard? I know the processor is very recent: a quad i7 pentium, and the ram may be DDR2 if not 3. I don't play intensive games, mostly Dota 2 and league of legends, so I don't need much. I'm not willing to buy refurbished, because you can never trust it, I'm not sure if it's worth buying an older new card.

As for a new PC, I'll probably never use a power gaming PC. But I am thinking of a solid-state drive since I don't have a back up solid-state drive, and this new computer once a gets old to be that back up drive. Any other components I'm not sure of. There are so many options…
 
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Do you have driver updates turned off to prevent it from updating?
The ram could be a problem after researching some of your error messages. Also other issues could just be the card dying.
Do you have another card to test?
You have used DDU to uninstall the drivers in Safemode and installed drivers manually after?
Turned off auto updates?
Checked to see if your motherboard had an bios setting updates for this issue?
Ran chkdsk /r
Ran sfc /scannow (as admin)
Enabled the admin account? (net user administrator /enable:yes)
Booted into safe mode and see if it worked?
Put the card in a different slot?
Used a different card?
Code 43 screams drivers.
You should check the temps of the card, remove the card if you have any onboard video cards..
Run CCleaner..
Anyways, all research said that it was either the card, the drivers, or the ram.
But your error codes point to the drivers on the card a lot.
Do you have a version of Windows 10 to install by chance?


 
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Do you have driver updates turned off to prevent it from updating?
The ram could be a problem after researching some of your error messages. Also other issues could just be the card dying.
Do you have another card to test?
You have used DDU to uninstall the drivers in Safemode and installed drivers manually after?
Turned off auto updates?
Checked to see if your motherboard had an bios setting updates for this issue?
Ran chkdsk /r
Ran sfc /scannow (as admin)
Enabled the admin account? (net user administrator /enable:yes)
Booted into safe mode and see if it worked?
Put the card in a different slot?
Used a different card?
Code 43 screams drivers.
You should check the temps of the card, remove the card if you have any onboard video cards..
Run CCleaner..
Anyways, all research said that it was either the card, the drivers, or the ram.
But your error codes point to the drivers on the card a lot.
Do you have a version of Windows 10 to install by chance?


 
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brownmagic2999

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Hi faike,

I'll try to answer everything in red:

Do you have driver updates turned off to prevent it from updating? yes

The ram could be a problem after researching some of your error messages. Also other issues could just be the card dying.
Do you have another card to test? No...any recommendations on a card for my PC specs?
You have used DDU to uninstall the drivers in Safemode and installed drivers manually after?
Turned off auto updates? Not sure what DDU is, so I can't comment on that. But I did uninstall and install drivers manually on safe mode
Checked to see if your motherboard had an bios setting updates for this issue? I did and it had none
Ran chkdsk /r yes
Ran sfc /scannow (as admin) yes
Enabled the admin account? (net user administrator /enable:yes) not sure...
Booted into safe mode and see if it worked? will get back to you on that...can't recall. Will try again
Put the card in a different slot? did not try this...
Used a different card? again, what should i pick up?
Code 43 screams drivers.
You should check the temps of the card, remove the card if you have any onboard video cards..
Run CCleaner.. ran it - all clean. Besides, I recently (semi) wiped the drive
Anyways, all research said that it was either the card, the drivers, or the ram.
But your error codes point to the drivers on the card a lot.
Do you have a version of Windows 10 to install by chance? I'm running windows 10 as it is
 
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