Random reboots after dual channel RAM install and upgrade

Mobza

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Hi guys, I'm still fairly new to custom PC setups and I've been having major issues with random reboots after installing a new 8gb DDR4 DIMM on top of my current setup to dual channel mode. Single channel mode works flawlessly with either stick.

I've currently got 8gb RAM installed into slot 1 and the 2nd stick I just bought is exactly the same make, model and size as the current stick. The system recognises both sticks and will boot and let me do what I normally do but then will randomly will shut down and restart, no BSOD or any other warnings. At 1st I thought I may have kicked a wire loose or something but it became a recurring theme, sometimes letting me use the computer for more than half an hour before reboot and sometimes instantly upon logging in. The rig isn't overheating at all and all fans are functional with no dust or other gunk clogging anything up. This build is still fairly new at 6 months old and I've wiped away any little dust buildup on the vents and inside a few times in this period.

System specs:
Intel i5 6400 2.7 GHz
Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2H rev. 1.0 (Only has 2 DIMM slots, can support up to 32GB DDR4)
BIOS version F20 (most recent)
Crucial 8GB DDR4-2133 UDIMM (CT8G4DFD8213) <-- new stick exactly the same
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 3GB
256GB Kingston SSD + 2TB Seagate HDD
CIT Active85 550w PSU
Windows 10 64bit

I've been reading many posts about bad RAM and dual channel RAM crashes specifically, but none of whats worked for others have worked for me so far. I've tried both sticks individually in slot 1, then slot 2 and both work normally when individually installed in either slot. I've ran memtest on both sticks individually, both with and without gfx card and both have passed 10+ times collectively when I've ran the tests in different conditions. I've also tried Prime95 stress test after reading another post, but when tested individually it comes up with no errors. I've tried pairing original stick in slot 1 and new stick in slot 2 and then the other way around, both configs giving random reboots. When booting into memtest and doing the test in dual channel mode, it always crashes at 99% with 0 errors before it can come up with a pass.

Stress testing with Prime95 seems like the quickest way to cause a reboot in dual channel mode, but so does just having a browse on chrome with 6+ tabs oddly enough. Playing Fallout 4 on ultra for 20 mins or running heaven benchmark till completion on extreme didn't upset the rig in dual channel, but basic tasks like web browsing or opening a powerpoint do. I've tried resetting CMOS within BIOS (reset to optimised defaults) and resetting it manually by popping out the battery for a few mins and then starting over but I get the same result.

The only thing I've not been successful on is playing with voltage in BIOS as every time I go under DRAM voltage control, I can only increase it by 0.05 increments (so from 1.2v default to 1.250v) after others had success putting it up by 0.005, but even then setting it at a higher value and then saving it and booting still only sends 1.2v to each slot according to both BIOS (after re-entering it after reboot) and CPU-Z. Another thing I've not tried are XMP profiles as I can't find this anywhere in the BIOS? There's no mention of it anywhere in the manual and apparently it doesn't support it according 1 user review of the mobo on scan computers. There's also been mention of manually setting the timings, but non of that makes sense to me at this point and I'm afraid I'll cause some irreversible damage if I start playing with settings I have no familiarity with

I did ring the vendor I purchased it from and they said to send it back for testing in case it is a defective stick, but I'm worried they'll say there's nothing wrong with it as it does work individually in either of the 2 slots.

Hopefully you're still with me here after reading this wall of text lol and fingers crossed someone can shed some light on what may be going wrong! Thanks in advance!

Edit: overstated CPU GHz
 

Mobza

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I've already done so like I mentioned above, each have passed multiple times with multiple tests. The system will reboot mid test or right towards the end of the test if in dual channel mode only, with zero errors
 

Seanie280672

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doesnt matter, regardless of the sticks being the same, as they were brought at different times, they have obviously used different manufacturing parts, and possibly different IC's, without a doubt at least a different batch of IC's, this shows itself easily as you say both sticks work perfectly on their own, but wont work together in dual channel.

This is why all manufacturers sell dual channel kits, to avoid problems like this, and those 2 stick of ram together dont like each other, or your mem controller doesnt like them together, its never recommended to buy 2 sticks at 2 different times, and manufacturers dont support it either.
 

Mobza

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Yeah I did factor this in when deciding to upgrade. Given that every article on the matter strongly advised to stick with the same brand and model of RAM as opposed to something completely different made me make the selection that I did, I didn't realise that batch numbers would play as big a role as this.

Anyway is there a solution to this then? Would messing with timings and voltage be worth the time?
 

Seanie280672

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In all fairness, probably not, it either works or it doesn't, and unfortunately for you it didn't, I understand your thinking trying to buy the same stuff, but things change all the time.

Dual channel and quad channel kits (if you want to run 4 sticks) are built together at the factory, same Ic's from the same batch, same programming chips, same pcbs, even down to the same batch of heat spreaders and batch of solder.
 

Mobza

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Just thought I'd give an update on the situation. My PC randomly shutdown in single channel mode with just the new stick installed. After that it wouldn't boot and gave me 5 long beeps. I reseated it and it booted, but then had a random reboot after about an hour usage just browsing the web and with a few powerpoints open. Memtest still came up with passes for the stick (which is odd considering its acting up) but now I'm deffo thinking the stick itself is defective. Going forward though I'll just buy 1x16gb or a kit rather than mixing it up