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uzayr99

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Hi, I'm currently putting together a build with a max budget of £800(1001 USD approx), preferably cheaper though.
Looking for some advice particularly on the CPU and GPU end.

I initially had this build that I was set on :https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dpjXNN

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory
Storage: Plextor M7V 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.2 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: *Asus GTX 1060 6gb
Case: Apevia X-QPACK3-RD MicroATX Mini Tower Case
Power Supply: *SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply

(Ram, storage, PSU and Case are subject to change as and when I purchase dependent on best quality for similar prices)

However with the release of the Ryzen 5 series, I'm debating replacing the i5 with either 1500 or 1600.
Further I'm considering swapping out the 1060 for an rx480 8gb, it seems to offer similar performance, but I can currently find it in the UK for about £100 (125usd approx) cheaper.

I'll be using the system for relatively high end gaming ( I'm presuming any combination of the above could sustain 60fps+ on high to max for most modern games), and will also be using it for design work within Solidworks (and other CAD programs).

My questions would then be :
1.Would any variation of these components actually attain the performance I'm expecting?
2. If so which combination would be the most "future-proofed" relativity anyway - Consider that I'm looking at spending maybe £200 (250usd approx) every two years or so upgrading if I absolutely have to
3. Finally I'm rather set on having a small form-factor PC, but I'm aware of AMD CPU's having a large overhead for Overclocking, would the form-factor provide any significant challenges in terms of heat when and if doing so?

General discussion is appreciated, I'm aware that the 5 series is very new so recommendations might be scarce on that front.

Thanks.
 
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You can expect Ryzen cpus to perform roughly equivalent to their Haswell counterparts as far as that goes, the 1800x was behind the i7-7700k by only a few fps mostly in the game reviews I've seen. However, amd seems to have stepped up their game a great deal when it comes round rendering. In the one review I read, the 1800x had a sore of 57 seconds, the i7-6900k was at 54 seconds, but the i7-7700k brought up the rear with 104 seconds. But thats not totally unexpected considering the test ran software capable of using every core, putting Amd with 16 vrs Intel 8. If your CAD program is capable and can definitely use the cores to advantage, the Ryzen cpus would be a better deal with an overall better aggregate average, if the software...
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The first thing I would do is go with 2x4 mem sticks to take advantage of dual channel mode. A single ram stick will work in single channel mode only. I've been a big AMD fan for a long time but I don't think I would deviate from the 1060. If theres any way you can up the antie to get the 1070, that would be my suggestion...
 
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I went for 1x8 so that I could potentially upgrade to 16gb of Ram in future.
And I had a look at going with the 1070, but generally stretches my budget a little bit too far.
 
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Gaming isn't the issue. You can game on anything new and relatively powerful. The issue I see is the Cad. That'll be your answer. Find out what the best qualifications for Solidworks are. For instance, Sony Vegas has issues with support for anything newer than 5 series nvidia gpus, it doesn't use Cuda as much as it takes advantage of gflops, so Amd gpus are much better suited. You'll want to consider core count and thread usage. It may turn out that the cpu is better at handling the Cad, more so than the gpu, so the Ryzen 5/7 or an i7 would stand to be a better option than the i5.
 
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I'll do some research into that now, although I'm pretty sure it will be able to handle it, my current laptop is running an i5 (unsure which and don't have access to it at the moment, but it's 3 years old at least), I really just added that for a little more context.

Cheers will get back with info on that soon
 
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Okay so as far as the prospective CPU'S are concerned I've only been able to find information on the i7 and ryzen 7 series in terms of benchmarks. Intel tends to perform much better, information present on Solidworks website says that the latest iterations of the program actively makes use of CUDA cores.

With that in mind I'm gonna stick with the 1060 and potentially up the price a little bit to accomadate for an i7

Cheers for the help guys.
 
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If u are a highend gamer ,I won't suggest rysen 5 series ,u can go with it if u are content creator like video editing stuffs and 1080p gaming,as u can over clock memory and core clocks to a greater intent .But as far as the hignend gaming concern get an i7 6700k as it has best price to performance in gaming. But only for normal gaming i5 and RX 480 for upto 1440p ,60hz .if u play 1440p 144hz ,minimum u must have a gtx 1080 to maintain that much frame and i7 6700k
 
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You can expect Ryzen cpus to perform roughly equivalent to their Haswell counterparts as far as that goes, the 1800x was behind the i7-7700k by only a few fps mostly in the game reviews I've seen. However, amd seems to have stepped up their game a great deal when it comes round rendering. In the one review I read, the 1800x had a sore of 57 seconds, the i7-6900k was at 54 seconds, but the i7-7700k brought up the rear with 104 seconds. But thats not totally unexpected considering the test ran software capable of using every core, putting Amd with 16 vrs Intel 8. If your CAD program is capable and can definitely use the cores to advantage, the Ryzen cpus would be a better deal with an overall better aggregate average, if the software doesn't use the cores, which many don't use more than 4, then Intel IPC still remains king. Barely. With consistent fps being over 60 possible in almost all games at 1080p with either the 480 or 1060, the real amount of fps difference a cpu (of those calibre) will make is negligible.

Either setup is going to make your dual core laptop look like a chump, the performance difference will be huge in every aspect there, so I'd like to believe you'd be kinda ecstatic with either build. That would come down to who gets the better bang for the buck which right now seems to be the Ryzen R5's. Being 6 core, they are performing at a minimum of what a Haswell i5 can do, and at maximum are topping the Haswell i7s in just games, with 12 thread capability they'll top the i7s capacity in multi thread apps.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1379-and-ryzen-5-1600x-1500x/page5.html
 
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