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I'm not really sure what category to put this in but because it mostly deals with overclocking I'll put it there.
Recently I stumbled upon this video: https://youtu.be/PTwuO2Tpdd0
It details a hacked up 5000 BTU conditioner with the cooling element inserted into a bucket to cool off liquid used in homebrewing.
I know that there are already tons of stickies and forum posts about sub-ambient cooling and I've already read a ton of them but because they are so old all of the pictures are missing they aren't very helpful. Hopefully this post can help somebody else who was like me and couldn't find the answers they were searching for elsewhere.
I was wondering if it would be possible to create a custom water loop but instead of using radiators to dissipate heat a chiller like the one detailed in the video would cool down the liquid. The cooler full of liquid would serve as a reservoir and the other components (Pump, tubing, blocks, fittings) would be standard. Theoretically, if the motherboard was properly insulated, the components could be cooled to sub-ambient and overclocked to the moon without fear of overheating. My case even has rubber grommets in the back to accommodate external water loops.
Currently I have an FX 8300 cooled by a be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 and it gets really toasty even with this beefy cooler when clocked at 4.6GHz+. I know that the thermal dissipation of the cooler is holding me back because in the winter I opened my window and got up to 5.1GHz stable @ 1.52v.
The first thing you are probably wondering is "Why is he trying to go sub-ambient on such a dated platform?" and the answer to that is that for right now this platform fits my needs perfectly fine. I really want to squeeze out every last drop of performance until I have enough money to buy an AM4 CPU, AM4 motherboard, and fast DDR4.
Because I eventually plan on upgrading to AM4 I was thinking of buying the XSPC Raystorm Pro for AM4 because it also fits AM3+ and then I wouldn't have to change out anything in the loop to upgrade. If I do it this way, when I do decide to switch platforms, I'll have an insanely fast CPU and extreme cooling to push it as far as I care to.
I understand that air conditioners are generally noisy and energy hogs but I'm willing to put up with the energy and additional noise. This idea only came to my mind because I was looking on a local auction site and people are selling air conditioners for practically nothing.
These are the questions I have regarding this kind of setup at this point in time:
1. In order to keep water at sub ambient temperatures and not have it freeze I would have to add antifreeze to it. Would soft tubing (Primoflex) react with the antifreeze and degrade?
2. Say I can get my CPU to 1.55v at a safe temperature with this kind of cooling. Will the voltage alone severely limit the lifespan of my chip? I know the normal answer is "blah blah overvolting and overclocking will always pose a risk blah blah" but what I'm looking for here is somebody who actually has had a FX CPU at 1.5v+ for daily usage and for an extended period of time and could tell me if it actually killed their chip or not.
3. The unit that air conditioners are measured in is BTU. The unit is somewhat foreign to me and is actually quite strange because it is defined as "he amount of heat required to raise the temperature of one pound of water by one degree Fahrenheit" which is pretty useless because computer temperatures and in Celcius and water is normally measured in liters or gallons.
http://www.rapidtables.com/convert/power/BTU_to_Watt.htm
This calculator tells me that 5,000 BTU/hour (standard AC unit) is equivalent to 14,565 joules/second (watts). I have an RX 480 and FX 8300. Both when extremely overclocked do not come anywhere near producing 14,565 watts of heat. Does this mean that my water would be way too cold and freeze (or create condensation) because my components would not be hot enough to balance out the chiller?
Those are the three main questions that I have as of right now. To some this idea may not seem practical at all and to be honest it isn't super practical but would still be a ton of fun if I could get it to work. I would appreciate any and all feedback you could give me on the execution of something like this and I thank you for taking the time to read my novel of a post
PS: I apologize in advance if my grammar or spelling is poor, I didn't proof read at all :lol:
Recently I stumbled upon this video: https://youtu.be/PTwuO2Tpdd0
It details a hacked up 5000 BTU conditioner with the cooling element inserted into a bucket to cool off liquid used in homebrewing.
I know that there are already tons of stickies and forum posts about sub-ambient cooling and I've already read a ton of them but because they are so old all of the pictures are missing they aren't very helpful. Hopefully this post can help somebody else who was like me and couldn't find the answers they were searching for elsewhere.
I was wondering if it would be possible to create a custom water loop but instead of using radiators to dissipate heat a chiller like the one detailed in the video would cool down the liquid. The cooler full of liquid would serve as a reservoir and the other components (Pump, tubing, blocks, fittings) would be standard. Theoretically, if the motherboard was properly insulated, the components could be cooled to sub-ambient and overclocked to the moon without fear of overheating. My case even has rubber grommets in the back to accommodate external water loops.
Currently I have an FX 8300 cooled by a be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 and it gets really toasty even with this beefy cooler when clocked at 4.6GHz+. I know that the thermal dissipation of the cooler is holding me back because in the winter I opened my window and got up to 5.1GHz stable @ 1.52v.
The first thing you are probably wondering is "Why is he trying to go sub-ambient on such a dated platform?" and the answer to that is that for right now this platform fits my needs perfectly fine. I really want to squeeze out every last drop of performance until I have enough money to buy an AM4 CPU, AM4 motherboard, and fast DDR4.
Because I eventually plan on upgrading to AM4 I was thinking of buying the XSPC Raystorm Pro for AM4 because it also fits AM3+ and then I wouldn't have to change out anything in the loop to upgrade. If I do it this way, when I do decide to switch platforms, I'll have an insanely fast CPU and extreme cooling to push it as far as I care to.
I understand that air conditioners are generally noisy and energy hogs but I'm willing to put up with the energy and additional noise. This idea only came to my mind because I was looking on a local auction site and people are selling air conditioners for practically nothing.
These are the questions I have regarding this kind of setup at this point in time:
1. In order to keep water at sub ambient temperatures and not have it freeze I would have to add antifreeze to it. Would soft tubing (Primoflex) react with the antifreeze and degrade?
2. Say I can get my CPU to 1.55v at a safe temperature with this kind of cooling. Will the voltage alone severely limit the lifespan of my chip? I know the normal answer is "blah blah overvolting and overclocking will always pose a risk blah blah" but what I'm looking for here is somebody who actually has had a FX CPU at 1.5v+ for daily usage and for an extended period of time and could tell me if it actually killed their chip or not.
3. The unit that air conditioners are measured in is BTU. The unit is somewhat foreign to me and is actually quite strange because it is defined as "he amount of heat required to raise the temperature of one pound of water by one degree Fahrenheit" which is pretty useless because computer temperatures and in Celcius and water is normally measured in liters or gallons.
http://www.rapidtables.com/convert/power/BTU_to_Watt.htm
This calculator tells me that 5,000 BTU/hour (standard AC unit) is equivalent to 14,565 joules/second (watts). I have an RX 480 and FX 8300. Both when extremely overclocked do not come anywhere near producing 14,565 watts of heat. Does this mean that my water would be way too cold and freeze (or create condensation) because my components would not be hot enough to balance out the chiller?
Those are the three main questions that I have as of right now. To some this idea may not seem practical at all and to be honest it isn't super practical but would still be a ton of fun if I could get it to work. I would appreciate any and all feedback you could give me on the execution of something like this and I thank you for taking the time to read my novel of a post
PS: I apologize in advance if my grammar or spelling is poor, I didn't proof read at all :lol:
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