$600-630~ build advice

Scrap3 · Apr 17, 2017

This is my first PC, I'm hoping to buy parts next month and I want some advice for the ones I'm looking at. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/swDyRG(My brother has a spare power supply that he's letting me use so that can't change)

Hellfire13 · Apr 17, 2017

What is the PSU make/model/unit??? What is the purpose of the build??? If you are willing to change certain parts, like the case, you can build a more powerful pc that will last you longer. Something like this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B250M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($41.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 470 4GB STRIX Video Card ($168.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $641.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-17 18:43 EDT-0400

Chugalug_ · Apr 17, 2017

An SSD is absolutely not necesssary at this price point, it can be better invested into other places, you've even had to go for an RE3 drive which is intended as secondary storage.
Get this @OP.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($54.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 480 4GB Dual Video Card ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Zalman Z3 Plus White ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $630.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-17 19:12 EDT-0400

Hellfire13 · Apr 17, 2017

An SSD is an absolute must by any standards today for any price point. Specially for gaming pc. There is not much difference between the 470 and 480 but the ssd will enhance performance many folds. You should get my build OP. It will be more bang for buck.

Chugalug_ · Apr 17, 2017

So you're going to cut down on performance, the quality of basic must-have components, include a lesser quality HDD and a bare minimum motherboard just to include an SSD?

Hellfire13 · Apr 17, 2017

(My brother has a spare power supply that he's letting me use so that can't change)

Op has already suggested that. And the operation of that HDD @7200 rpm is indistinguishable in real time.

Scrap3 · Apr 17, 2017

So you're going to cut down on performance, the quality of basic must-have components, not even INCLUDE a power supply, include a lesser quality HDD and a bare minimum motherboard just to include an SSD?
It's not even a working build for a start...

Did you even read the whole thread? I asked for advice not shit talk

Chugalug_ · Apr 17, 2017

I'm debating, not intending to come across as too aggressive, just trying to make amendments to his build due to critical flaws, sorry.

Chugalug_ · Apr 18, 2017

@Hellfire, he's using the Nex 650w he got from his brother, didn't see it, mb.

I've included a 120GB SSD since the budget is now freed up.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($54.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($50.49 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 480 4GB Dual Video Card ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Zalman T2 Plus MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($25.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $626.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-18 00:24 EDT-0400

Hellfire13 · Apr 18, 2017

120gb is too little and wont sustain long or it will be very tedious to free it up every now and then. Keeping the SSD and lowering the fancy case should accommodate both SSD and 480 in the budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B250M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($41.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 480 4GB Dual Video Card ($183.05 @ Amazon)
Case: Zalman T2 Plus MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($25.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $641.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-18 05:33 EDT-0400

Chugalug_ · Apr 18, 2017

Yeah, that's optimal, however you should replace the RAM and mobo with what i've listed above, both better options, the HDD also isn't meant to be a primary drive, just sub out the 120GB for a 240GB SSD PLUS in my build.

Hellfire13 · Apr 18, 2017

RAM is fine. Dual channel will run faster than single channel. Also its better for troubleshooting if required. HDD speed difference is minimal in real time. Motherboard has 4 dimm slots in case he needs to upgrade later on.

Chugalug_ · Apr 18, 2017

It's generic RAM, and the DS3H is higher quality for 50c more.
At least get one of these:
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/HYH48d/patriot-memory-pv48g240c5k
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/cLkwrH/gskill-memory-f42400c15d8grr

Makentox · Apr 18, 2017

When 2 GMs fight

My advice
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B250M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Jet)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 480 4GB Dual Video Card ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Zalman T2 Plus MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($25.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($36.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $643.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-18 18:10 EDT-0400

Add HDD and 8gb more RAM when u have money.

I agree about SSD is a must, makes life more easier. Rx 470 is very low performance/$ ratio, try to get 480 no matter what :S

Hellfire13 · Apr 18, 2017

If OP can stretch the budget then those RAM are fine.

Chugalug_ · Apr 18, 2017

Makentox :

Stay away from EVGA's B1 and NEX series as well as their lower wattage offerings, as they're low quality.
Get at least a Corsair CXM (2016) or Seasonic S12II.

Makentox · Apr 18, 2017

Chugalug_ :

Got any proff? Because i can post some reviews on both of them, and evga 500w is not much worse, it will do the job, for half of the price. Remember its budget build. And repeat again Evga will do the job just fine.

I have never owned seasonic

but i had evga white for 4 years and it still working in my dads PC.

Chugalug_ · Apr 18, 2017

That's an extremely low wattage scenario, like 50-75w max given he's probably not gaming.

You can run any hunk of junk at that wattage level without error.
The components are mediocre, voltage regulation is mediocre, and the OEM is known for making low quality units.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1500086/why-you-should-not-buy-an-evga-400-600-and-500b-600b

Makentox · Apr 19, 2017

Chugalug_ :

Well you are right about quality, but cmon under 30$ unit worth a risk specially that this risk is very low. 600$ system, many people tell the same in comment section under thread u posted.
But again seasonic ofc way to go but only if u can afford it, and it may last longer for OP.

Chugalug_ · Apr 19, 2017

"Well you are right about quality, but cmon under 30$ unit worth a risk specially that this risk is very low. "
No, regardless of what it is, the PSU is the most crucial part of the system, if that dies and it's low quality, the whole system can get fried. It still has about a 350w system TDP, and at high load that unit isn't the most stable to put it one way...
It's another $10-20 bucks to get something much higher quality that won't have a chance of stuffing things up.
Think of it as getting the dodgy Russian bloke from down the street to do your electrical wiring off the books vs a proper company for a bit more.
Might work out cheaper and work fine initially, but it's going to bite you in the arse one day.

Hellfire13 · Apr 19, 2017

Other than supernova, evga is not an option that you should advice. If it comes to budget unit, the minimum you should advice is this... https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rXQypg/antec-power-supply-ea380dgreen
Its better than that evga in your list.

Chugalug_ · Apr 19, 2017

Even that....
You can get an S12II for $2 more, why bother?

Hellfire13 · Apr 19, 2017

Point was, one shouldnt go below that unit.

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