Difference between a CPU with 3.5ghz and 4.0ghz

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That_Tech_Guy_Again

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Assuming EVERYTHING ELSE about a computer is exactly the same. Would there be a 'noticeable' difference when gaming if between 2 identical CPU's with the ONLY difference being 0.5ghz. Would it make a difference?

I am considering which Ryzen CPU to get if that helps. If you need more info just ask. :)
 

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I was probably a bit vague, but i said before, All hardware components are the same. The only difference will be the 500mhz.

I am asking the question because i am comparing the different Ryzen 7 CPU's and Ryzen 5 CPU's.
 

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For gaming it won't make any useful difference.

Ryzen CPUs are unlocked so there is no reason why you can't buy the 3.5GHz model and set it to run at 4.0GHz. Just make sure you have the proper cooling.
 

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As Ecky has stated by rough theoretical estimations, the 0.5GHz cpu would be ~14%higher in overall performance than the other one. However, this is purely theoretical. There are other factors that contribute to and define "performance". Commonly, we refer to performance in terms of single or multi threaded applications. In theory, that 14% would be that it does 14% better in single threaded performance. In multi-threaded performance, the estimations get tricky, as there are way too many things to consider than just clock speed.

Take this for an example:
A simple bench test people can use to test cpu performance is Cinebench (R15). I had a E8500, 3.16GHz, that I had overclocked to 3.7GHz, which would be a ~17% gain in clock speed. At stock, I obtained a score of 80 for single and 174 for mutli-threaded performance. After overclocking, it scored 100 in single and 192 in mutli. This would mean an observed increase of 25% in single threaded performance and 10.3% in multi-threaded performance.

As you can see, the E8500 actually gained more performance than expected in single-threaded performance, but much less than expected in multi-threaded performance. This is because the other factors that influence a cpu's performance aren't being affected much, if at all, when you simple crank up the clock speed.

Also, these increases will not provide you with any clear idea of the FPS gain you will see in games. Some games can utilize more cores effectively and some are less cpu intensive, requiring more work from the gpu rather than the cpu.



And you had mentioned that this was to compare Rzyen 7 and 5. Well first of all, Rzyen 7 chips are all 8core 16 thread chips, while Rzyen 5 chips are a mix of 4core 8threads and 6 core 12thread chips. The 6core 12thread variant, found in Rzyen 5, are actually the same chips as the Rzyen 7, just binned for a lower tier and having 2 cores disable. Comparing Rzyen 7 and 5 will be more than just looking at their clock speeds alone.
 

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I understand what you mean. The 4 = 4ghz and the 3.5 = 3.5ghz. But i do not understand why 4/3.5=1.14? what is the logical reason for dividing 4 by 3.5??
 

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I have never actually overclocked anything before.
 

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A cpu overclocked from 3.5GHz to 4GHz is approximately a gain of 14%.
4/3.5 * 100% = 114%
114%-100% = 14%
 

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Okay. It fits within my budget to get any type of Ryzen CPU. So i was thinking of getting either the

Ryzen 7 1800X

OR

Ryzen 5 1600X

OR

Ryzen 5 1500X

The reason behind each choice is quite simple.

I was initially going to get the 1800X because it has 8 cores and it has 3.6ghz base with 4ghz boost.

Whereas the 1600X has the same and boost speed, BUT it has 6 cores instead of 8.

And the 1500X has only 4 cores and a lower 3.5/3.7 clock speed.

With the 1600X someone else i talked to is getting it and and it would be about $200 less... But he recommended i get the 1500X

Now what i am going to use it for is basically for....

Gaming
Streaming on Twitch
Video Editing
Rendering

Also, i know that i will need lots of cores for rendering but i do not think 4 will be enough. so should i get the 6 core or 8 core???
 

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Oh i get it now. Thankyou for the help. :)
 

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For video editing and rendering, the more cores the merrier; you should go for the Ryzen 7 in that case. For just pure gaming, a 4 or 6 core Rzyen 5 will do most of the time.

However, as mentioned earlier, you can overclock a 1700 to be on par to a 1700X. The same is true for an overclocked 1700X being on par to 1800X. Overclocking can save you some money and let you use that for getting a better gpu.
 

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So which would you recommend for the following tasks, i will be doing lots of

Gaming (probably max settings)
Streaming on Twitch
Video Editing
Rendering

The choices i am considering are the

Ryzen 7 1800X

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Ryzen 5 1600X

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Ryzen 5 1400X
 

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LOL. You read my mind. I just asked you that question and you had already answered it. Thankyou :)

With the gpu i will probably be getting the 1070 and money is not really an issue.
 

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I watched the video. It seems like the 1700X can perform just as good as the 1800X. And i will be able to save $100. Thankyou for all your help.
 
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I'm building a Ryzen 7 1700 now. I'm going to OC to 3.7 maybe 3.8 mhz. depending on my temps with my Cooler Master Hyper 212 cooler I just got from Amazon, let's see how it holds up, the reviews were good.
I do video editing with Vegas Pro 15 and I went with the MSI GTX 1060 3GB gpu... should be fine.
 
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