Time to retire the 290X??

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So as the thread suggests I'm considering retiring my 290X. It's done me well and still continues to do a pretty good job at everything I've thrown at it.

The heat wasn't a huge issue, as I had the Windforce cooler, so it got into the mid 80's at most. The power draw didn't bother me either, it was the first flagship that I'd ever been ahold of so in that sense it's a GPU I'm rather fond of.I guess as we all know pretty much every flagship from AMD has been a rebrand or a GPU with very similar horsepower to the 290X if not a rebrand of the 290X itself, albeit they run cooler, draw less power, and some have twice the VRAM (it should be noted I only play at 1080p) and each yield perhaps a 5% increase in performance with every generation prior.

I guess where I feel perplexed is that, the heat is really only an issue over summer in really long gaming session. Minus DOOM; nothing has maxed the VRAM out, and pretty much every decently optimized game runs at 50-70FPS on high/ultra settings. Some games don't though, and because of the VRAM I get cut out of a few features here and there in graphical options.

The other issue is,I don't wanna spend $700+ for a 1070 which seems like the logical jump, as it trounces the 290X. So... That leaves the $400 market (Australian), which consists of the RX 580, 480 or the GTX 1060. neither of which are huge improvements over the 290X in terms of graphical horsepower. Is there anything else I'm missing, should I stick with the 290X until vega drops? Any ideas or any kind of input would be appreciated.

P.S On a sidenote, I believe that Nvidia GPUs under DX12 don't run too well with Ryzen, I've just ordered a 1600X, any thoughts on that too? Thanks guys :)
 
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Keep the R9 290X a little bit longer until AMD VEGA or Nvidia Volta.

As you said, performance wise the RX 480/580 and GTX 1060 are similar to the R9 290X.

AMD RX 400 and 500 series are only comparable performance wise, they're a completely different architecture though with signficantly better efficiency.

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Keep the R9 290X a little bit longer until AMD VEGA or Nvidia Volta.

As you said, performance wise the RX 480/580 and GTX 1060 are similar to the R9 290X.

AMD RX 400 and 500 series are only comparable performance wise, they're a completely different architecture though with signficantly better efficiency.
 
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Yeah... I think vega was meant to drop in early 2018, it's a bit of a wait but hopefully it'll be worth it, I hope by then whatever rumors of Nvidia and Ryzen issues will be ironed out too.
 

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It is? Do you know when? Or where you found that out from? Honestly I'd prefer a little more than a 12% increase is all. a 20% then I'd be more comfortable shelling out the pennies.
 

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By December well I' could certainly spring more than 400 by then, thanks for the input dude. I appreciate it.
 

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But it does not mean that VEGA will be better value than a GTX 1070, 1080 or 1080 Ti. We don't know at all yet.

For example, a VEGA card might release starting from 500 dollars, will it beat a GTX 1080 which also costs around 500? Let's see.
 
Vega always has been scheduled for H1 2017... rumours have it being released some time in May. It's not far off.

There are 2 GPUs, Vega 10 and Vega 11. One is larger - beastly large if rumours are to be believed - with HBM2 memory and >12TFlops. I'm not sure whether they release the top-tier cards first. If they perform as expected, they're probably >=$500... so may be out of price range? There will be lower tiered cards too, but I don't know what the timeframe is on those (they may even release these first, I don't know).
 

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He made a mistake- AMD did say it would be Q2 (quarter2), which is April to June, not June to December. Most likely release date is around 30 of May- first week of June.
 

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Sorry for the late reply, I had to take a shower I was dying for one since I'd come home lol. Well whatever Vega is, I can atleast hope that 580/1060/1070 prices will drop, and then the 1070 will become much more appealing. I'm kinda bummed out by the fact that the 580 wasn't vega.

That being said I'm not looking only at AMD for the future, if Volta is great then that'll certainly be an option too. At the end of the day it's what I can afford at the time, and down the road I'll have more money saved so it'll come down to what is clearly better than the 290X, and is it worth buying inplace of it.

Thanks everyone for chipping in, I've learned more than I thought I would from this all.
 
From a purely gaming perspective, an i5 will get you more bang for the buck than ryzen for the price, especially in the Australian market, at least with most current games. That could change if they start making games that use heavily threaded workloads, which isn't hugely likely because its harder to program that way, there will always be a reliance on one or two "heavy" threads. The video cards you mentioned, bar the 1070, all trade blows with your 290x, the only thing you would gain would be efficiency. Better off waiting till something better comes out for cheaper.

To be honest, at this stage, this may be my last gaming pc :( Consoles are now good enough to display their games smoothly at 1080p, and they look quite nice displaying on a large TV.
 
What a weird response, what does this thread have anything to do with CPUs and consoles? I mean consoles are great for casual gaming, but there are so many benefits to having a PC that you're not considering. Just because a console can run a game at 30-60fps at 1080p doesn't mean it's not worth getting a PC anymore. I'm not saying consoles are bad, they're just not for the same type of gamer as PCs are for.
 

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Yup ^



Appeal of PC is for other things aswell though :p. Graphically consoles have been decent for a while now. Just not 60 fps most of the time.
 

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Well I did do some research into picking Ryzen, with good memory the 1600X sits between the i5 and i7. I don't want to pay for an i7, and the 1600X was also cheaper than the i5. In terms of productivity the 1600X destroys the i5 too. Prior to Ryzen I seriously was considering an i5, but couldn't justify the price hike with every new generation intel released. (Nothing against intel, a few of my systems are intel based.) It's also fair to note that a 7700k destroys Ryzen in gaming at the moment.

Also regarding gaming on a console, I dislike controllers too much. They leave my hands aching, as comfortable as the xbox controllers are. No-one I know really uses them anymore either. It wouldn't make any sense for me to go down that path.
 
The 1600X isn't really worth the extra money IMO when you can get basically the same thing with an included stock cooler with the R5 1600, most people are getting 3.9GHz on all cores without even getting an aftermarket cooler. The B350 boards are also a better deal if you're not going to run SLI/Crossfire and don't need the extra SATA ports. The RAM matters though, samsung B-die 3200MHz is a good investment for Ryzen
 


I do get it, believe me, I have been building PC's since the intel 286 days........ I would still own a PC of sorts just not an all out gaming PC. I was merely stating the appeal of consoles is increasing, and what I may plan to do when I retire my 390. And if he has $400 to spend....its an option.....