1080p 144hz vs 1440p 60 hz monitors?

SandSii · Apr 21, 2017

Which is better for gaming?

Found these two budget monitors at similar prices

1. http://www.ebuyer.com/695562-asus-vx24ah-24-ips-console-gaming-monitor-vx24ah

-1440p
- Vertical Refresh Rate 56 - 76 Hz
- Horizontal Refresh Rate 30 - 80 kHz
- IPS
-5ms response
- Cheaper

2. https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-VG248QE-Widescreen-Multimedia-80000000/dp/B00B19T7QC

-144hz
-1080p
-TN panel
-1 ms response

My specs will be i5-i700 cpu
EVGA Geforce GTX 1060 6GB gpu
8gb ram but will upgrade to 16gb later

What will be the better experience? I'm not a super competitive gamer but I do want the best experience in games whether that be frame rate or better looking graphics. All sorts of games too from Battlefield to games like Escape from Tarkov and smaller simulation games.
Another important factor is what monitor will be easier on the eye strain?

LucoTF · Apr 21, 2017

1440p at 24 inches is a bit of a waste. I would go for 144hz

CmdrJeffSinclair · Apr 21, 2017

I fully disagree. The panels made today have better pixels able to perform higher resolutions with no distortion in the picture due to smaller panel sizes. In this age of 4K though 1440p would seem to be the new minimum HD people use. Even then, 4K is very rapidly becoming the new "hd" like 1080p. I would recommend no less than 1440 or else you'll be upgrading yet again sooner than you may wish to.

And for those who say 120+ FPS on games is a buttery smooth eye-fest... just lolz at them. 60Hz plus the highest res you can afford/run smoothly is what you need to aim for. 4K support is almost everywhere now and I can attest it is worth every penny.

Regardless of your rig, most gamers who play games online like Battlefield will often run 4k with very few post processing effects and wear surround sound headphones to smite the competition because the less the eye has to process the easier it is to kill your newb foes.

I can personally attest that higher res with lowered graphics is still superior to all those VRAM hungry post processing effects. Upgrading a graphics card in 1-2 years is nothing new, but a monitor really shouldn't need upgrading until it's really, REALLY time, such as 4k being the new landmark for resolution

As for personal preferences to TVs I can say this, buy what you will use. Don't fall for HDR+ nonsense or super interpolation crap like Trumotion or whatever each manufacturor calls their fake refresh rates. 60Hz is all you need and it will not really every go higher because the human eye can't really see anything smoother than it. Some can, most don't and many say they can but they are actually perceiving the increase in overall frames spread out rather than actually seeing BETWEEN the frames.

I bought a Samsung KS8000 tv because it's what I needed minus all the bloat. It is 4k, it is 55" to fit my wall, it is a tv that acts like a computer monitor in the way it can hook up, it has very low pixel response and blah blah all those things I wanted and I did not pay a penny more for what I did not want or need

LucoTF · Apr 21, 2017

1440p is great, just get it at 27": http://www.ebuyer.com/702613-aoc-q2778vqe-27-led-monitor-q2778vqe

SandSii · Apr 21, 2017

LucoTF :

Does a TN panel have any negative effects on a 1440p monitor?

CmdrJeffSinclair · Apr 21, 2017

SandSii :

TN (Twisted Nematic) is the most common technology and also the oldest. The main advantage is that it provides the shortest response times, making them good for gaming. In combination with LED back-lighting, TN monitors also offer high brightness and draw less power than competing technologies. Another important factor is that they are cheap to manufacture, resulting in low prices for end users.
The drawbacks to the technology is the color shifts that occur at wider viewing angles. There are large differences in quality between different products, but the lower-end ones will exhibit color shift even at moderate angle changes. A TN-based display can usually be identified through these color distortions when viewing the picture from above or from the sides.

We can give you facts and share our preferences and experiences but only YOU can decide what is best for you.

SandSii · Apr 21, 2017

I really cannot decide! I've tried researching videos and reviews but haven't been able to find an answer. Is the step from a 1080p monitor to a 1440p monitor a BIGGER step than a 60hz to 144hz monitor?

I could spend more money on say a 1440p 144hz monitor but if my computer cant get over 100fps with that resolution then is the prettier picture really worth it?

Having said that, if I got a 1440p monitor which only has 60hz and struggles to get 60fps then will the resolution even matter if there is so much stutter and tearing due to lower fps?

My heart is telling me that a 1080p 144hz would be the best option at £250 over a 1440p 60hz at £210. However would it be worth spending £450 to get a 1440p 144hz IPS monitor and hope my PC build can actually get 100+ frames and 1440p? Is 1440p with IPS and 144hz worth the extra £200 over just the 1080p?

sizzling · Apr 21, 2017

What type of games do you play? Fast moving fps or racing games benefit greatly from higher Hz. However non reaction based games will look much nicer on a higher resolution and won't benefit much from a higher Hz screen.

SandSii · Apr 21, 2017

sizzling :

I do play a mix of fps and non fps games but i'd say more fps

sizzling · Apr 21, 2017

SandSii :

Then if it was my choice Id go 1080p 144Hz

J_E_D_70 · Apr 21, 2017

You are not going to get high frame rates at 1440 with a gtx 1060 in a lot of AAA games - BF1 being one of them. Even at 1080 you'll not likely break 100 unless you turn a lot of effects down.

Andromeda is one where at 1440p you'd probably have to run high vs ultra to stay near 60.

CmdrJeffSinclair · Apr 21, 2017

Ask yourself what is the point in 144Hz? Your eye won't see past 60. Even if it could, it won't help you game better. However, 1440p will greatly increase clarity and offer you a clearer picture regardless of frame rates so long as you are maintaining steady 45+FPS. Unless you plan on doing 3D there's no reason to go past 60 FPS/Hz. If you want to spend money on low resolution and high frame rates you cannot even perceive rather than getting a clearer picture, then by all means, waste your money.

If you were really smart and wanted to be the best FPS gamer and buy "something" that helps your game, then you'd either go 1440p for a clearer picture to rekk newbs on fast paced games or you'd buy a nicer graphics card to play at a perfect 60 minimum framerate because regardless of the monitor you choose you are never going to maintain 60 FPS so you will not see that 144Hz smoothness you want. It may be possible though to achieve decent graphics at 1440p with a smooth 60FPS though.

Either way, you're going to have to make sacrifices to maintain 60+ FPS even at 1080p because your rig just isn't going to pump out the frames you want.

In my experience, playing at higher resolution with lower frames offers superior visual clarity so long as you strike a balance between maintaining steady frames at that resolution. Even if you "can" reach 144 frames per second, visual clarity is severely reduced when your framerates spike and drop. That's why graphics card reviewers always present the minimum, maximum and average frame rates because many games will hit 100 FPS in one area then plummet to 20 FPS in another.

If you earnestly want a clear picture, shoot for 45FPS steady at 1440p and I guarantee you will have the buttery smooth clarity of picture you desire without needing to lower resolution to increase frame rate. Screen tearing is the most visually distracting phenomenon you will ever have to deal with so having high frames isn't always good, it can cause a game to become utterly unplayable. Even with G-Sync or AMD's FreeSync, screen tearing is so awful you cannot even enjoy the game.

My stern advice is

-1440p helps you upgrade resolution so you won't have to ditch your 1080p screen down the road
-1440p should push your system just hard enough so that you can reach AND maintain steady frames while offering better render quality. This combination is the sweet spot even in high paced FPS games
-When you upgrade your CPU/GPU will you get higher frame rates anyway and if you opt for 1080p you will likely want a screen upgrade at that point when all your friends have 4K and you're still playing a million billion FPS @1080p

In order of importance for visual clarity

RESOLUTION > FRAMES/Hz > GRAPHICS
resolution is prettier than an unnecessarily high frame rate and it is also nicer than all the post-processing effects. It's up to you to find that balance.

J_E_D_70 · Apr 21, 2017

I'm going to say it varies from person to person... but I can definitely tell a big difference between 60hz and 100+ hz. Much smoother and easier to get crosshairs on a target.

Can also say I see a difference between 1080p and 1440p. So, there are tradeoffs.

CmdrJeffSinclair · Apr 22, 2017

J_E_D_70 :

He'll overcome 1 upgrade path for his monitor by choosing 1440, avoid any possible screen tearing issues at 1080p by choosing 1440p and also he'll have better clarity because his rig is simply not going to pump out 100+FPS even at 1080p. Going 1080p makes no sense. I used to scoff at higher resolutions but when I jumped on the 4k bandwagon it was ridiculous how much better it looked. I just couldn't believe it. I was always able to get 100+ FPS but I never appreciated it. Maybe that is just my crappy eyeballs but that alongside studies really do show that 60Hz is a great choice. I don't see anyone complaining about it in this age of 60FPS gaming wars and even with 4k graphics cards the entire goal the last 2 years was to get 4k@60Hz steady with one GPU. It's a landmark for a reason.

Resolution just beats really high frames. Not saying not to have both, just saying if you are really getting stuck with one, choose the right one. He'll be happier down the road when he has a newer, better GPU and that 1440p monitor. He won't be as pressured to upgrade up from 1080 and then he'll still eventually get higher FPS anyway when current GPUs drop super cheap.

LucoTF · Apr 22, 2017

There are numerous studies that show the human eye can see up to at least 250fps.

But it's actually the speed of the game that affects the decision here. Slow games like open world action games (gta5, witcher, batman to name a few) would run fine at 30fps. Faster games like driving games would definitely feel smoother at 60fps, and for twitch shooters like csgo many many players claim to feel the benefit from 144hz

CmdrJeffSinclair · Apr 22, 2017

no one is paying attention to his rig. He's not going to pass 60 FPS ever on this gen games. Not on a 1060. Not even at 1080p for many. He wants to play Battlefield 1 for example. He's not going to pass 60FPS on a 1060 without lowering the graphics to like zero. Someone else said this too and I second it. Pay attention to his actual PC guys. He's not running a GTX 1080

He can always get a 1440p monitor anyway and then run the game at 1080 or 720p. I don';t know why anyone would get a 1440p monitor and then think they are stuck only at that resolution. He can probably run any game he wants and the screen should upscale to 1440p anyway, still making it a better option than 1080p. Not as nice at 1440p pure, but still better than 1080p.

Regardless, he's not going to get high FPS without a better graphics card. Run a 1440p screen and when he cannot hit 1440p at the graphics level he desires, he can still lower the resolution and allow his screen to upscale. It helps. No reason whatsoever to get 1080p because at the end of the day he'll want a 1440p or higher if only his rig could handle it, which means he will eventually upgrade anyway and be forced to ditch the 1080p screen. Waste of money

J_E_D_70 · Apr 22, 2017

For what it's worth, Sinclair may as well have been a cardboard stand-in - John Sheridan owned that station! Thread derailed. My apologies.

CmdrJeffSinclair · Apr 22, 2017

J_E_D_70 :

hahahahaah Babylon 5 is the best. GET THE HE** OUTTA MY GALAXY: Love, Sheridan lol

end of thread derail. Had to say it

edwardjfarrell545 · Dec 24, 2018

CmdrJeffSinclair :

Ask yourself what is the point in 144Hz? Your eye won't see past 60. Even if it could, it won't help you game better. However, 1440p will greatly increase clarity and offer you a clearer picture regardless of frame rates so long as you are maintaining steady 45+FPS. Unless you plan on doing 3D there's no reason to go past 60 FPS/Hz. If you want to spend money on low resolution and high frame rates you cannot even perceive rather than getting a clearer picture, then by all means, waste your money.

If you were really smart and wanted to be the best FPS gamer and buy "something" that helps your game, then you'd either go 1440p for a clearer picture to rekk newbs on fast paced games or you'd buy a nicer graphics card to play at a perfect 60 minimum framerate because regardless of the monitor you choose you are never going to maintain 60 FPS so you will not see that 144Hz smoothness you want. It may be possible though to achieve decent graphics at 1440p with a smooth 60FPS though.

Either way, you're going to have to make sacrifices to maintain 60+ FPS even at 1080p because your rig just isn't going to pump out the frames you want.

In my experience, playing at higher resolution with lower frames offers superior visual clarity so long as you strike a balance between maintaining steady frames at that resolution. Even if you "can" reach 144 frames per second, visual clarity is severely reduced when your framerates spike and drop. That's why graphics card reviewers always present the minimum, maximum and average frame rates because many games will hit 100 FPS in one area then plummet to 20 FPS in another.

If you earnestly want a clear picture, shoot for 45FPS steady at 1440p and I guarantee you will have the buttery smooth clarity of picture you desire without needing to lower resolution to increase frame rate. Screen tearing is the most visually distracting phenomenon you will ever have to deal with so having high frames isn't always good, it can cause a game to become utterly unplayable. Even with G-Sync or AMD's FreeSync, screen tearing is so awful you cannot even enjoy the game.

My stern advice is

-1440p helps you upgrade resolution so you won't have to ditch your 1080p screen down the road
-1440p should push your system just hard enough so that you can reach AND maintain steady frames while offering better render quality. This combination is the sweet spot even in high paced FPS games
-When you upgrade your CPU/GPU will you get higher frame rates anyway and if you opt for 1080p you will likely want a screen upgrade at that point when all your friends have 4K and you're still playing a million billion FPS @1080p

In order of importance for visual clarity

RESOLUTION > FRAMES/Hz > GRAPHICS
resolution is prettier than an unnecessarily high frame rate and it is also nicer than all the post-processing effects. It's up to you to find that balance.

i own a 144hz monitor, and the eye can absolutely see past 60, the difference between 144hz and 60hz is night and day to me.

J_E_D_70 · Dec 24, 2018

^ beware the Necromancer!

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