AMD Bottleneck with GTX 1050 Ti

venuz21 · Apr 21, 2017

First - sorry for my bad English
Hello. I have AMD Phenom II X4 840 3.20GHz and GTX 550 Ti. Im thinking about upgrade to 1050Ti 4GB. Did my CPU will bottleneck this video card? Of course i will upgrade my cpu in maybe 10 months to i5-6400 but now i can't.

Atomicdonut17 · Apr 21, 2017

Yes, the Phenom will bottleneck the card. It works well with the 550Ti you had before hand, as both were within the same range of scope for budget power. You won't have too horrible of a time with a 1050Ti, but the bottleneck will still be present. As for the Intel upgrade, I'd honestly do that first. Buying a new B250/Z170/H110M and a Pentium G4560/i3 6xxx/7xxx will be within the same ballpark range as the GPU. But, that's only suggestable if you think you can stave off big gaming for 10 months. The iGPUs of all the processors listed are decent enough to handle small titles with reasonable FPS, but if you really want to get the 1050Ti at the moment, you'll have a bottleneck- but a reasonable one.

atljsf · Apr 21, 2017

if you plan to upgrade cpu, mainboard and ram later, yes it will bottleneck but if you change those 3 later, it will not matter, if you plan to keep using that old phenom, well, perhaps leave it as it is and later build a completelly new pc

venuz21 · Apr 21, 2017

Actually im playing only CSGO and Overwatch but on lowest graphics settings because on medium graphics settings i have maybe 40fps.
Did my CPU will bottleneck this video card in 20-30% or more? If more i think I will buy mainboard, CPU and GPU just like atljsf says.

M_sked · Apr 21, 2017

venuz21 :

Your CPU will definitely bottleneck that GPU. The 1050Ti is a good graphics card. Not the best, of course, but it's good. That CPU is bad, in my opinion. To be honest, regardless of which one you choose to upgrade now, the other component will bottleneck the other, so you should save up and buy an RX 460 GPU with a G4560 Pentium CPU. That would be a good build.

atljsf · Apr 21, 2017

that or buy the 1050ti, use it with the bottleneck and later buy a newer mainboard, cpu and ram

this is what i call a work in progress, you cna use the 1050 like that for a long time without issues, just not pushing it to its maximum capabilities thanks to the slow phenom, thats it

it will work just fine but thinking on upgrading to a bigger faster cpu latter

venuz21 · Apr 22, 2017

I will wait maybe it will get lower price in next months. I think i will buy intel i5-6400, mainboard and gtx 1050ti in "one time". Thanks everyone

Zerk2012 · Apr 22, 2017

venuz21 :

The 1050ti is not a high end card by any means and their always a bottleneck don't stress it buy it if you wish.
It's not like you have a old AMD CPU and are putting in a high end card.
Most people on here that talk about a bottleneck don't have a clue what their saying.
Their not a single person that can tell you to buy any video card and use it with any CPU and still not have a bottleneck and the bottleneck will change depending on the game your playing.
Their never been a PC built that don't have a bottleneck and never will be. That is just the slowest part of the PC doing the task at hand and can change to a different part doing a different task.

M_sked · Apr 22, 2017

Zerk2012 :

venuz21 :

The 1050ti is not a high end card by any means and their always a bottleneck don't stress it buy it if you wish.
It's not like you have a old AMD CPU and are putting in a high end card.
Most people on here that talk about a bottleneck don't have a clue what their saying.
Their not a single person that can tell you to buy any video card and use it with any CPU and still not have a bottleneck and the bottleneck will change depending on the game your playing.
Their never been a PC built that don't have a bottleneck and never will be. That is just the slowest part of the PC doing the task at hand and can change to a different part doing a different task.

Sorry, bigman.

Zerk2012 · Apr 22, 2017

M_sked :

Zerk2012 :

Sorry, bigman.

100% correct everything I stated.

Atomicdonut17 · Apr 23, 2017

Zerk2012 :

You were true to saying that the 1050 Ti isn't a high end card, and it isn't. And, no, the bottleneck presented will be small, and really justifiable for the upgrade performance of a 130-dollar GPU. HOWEVER, you're false to say there's never been a PC built with no bottlenecks. Enthusiast-grade builds are exactly that- builds contemplated, purchased and built on the idea of a no-bottleneck PC. If you put a 1080 Ti with a i7 7700k, you'll find that you have some smooth performance and in virtual statistics, no bottleneck to be recognized. You say most of us don't know what we're talking about with bottlenecks? That's bold to say on a forum dedicated to assisting people. You can edge a fallacy all day long, but you can't deny the 1050 Ti has a bottleneck on the Phenom. It's not so severe that it's not worth getting, but it exist.

atljsf · Apr 23, 2017

no, the limiting factor on any oc build will be the weakest link, being ram, cpu, ssd, gou, any part will slow down the other in any form

the most balanced machines in this aspect are consoles thanks to limittions in heat, power consumption, size and price, so everything must work together, cheap prices in parts and while not leaving you deaf or burning yor house

there is always a bottleneck

those machines you mention well balance,d are well balanced up to a point, price usually is the point, when you tro in a lot of cash, that point becomes a bit more distant by buing a enormous and expensive cpu, the fastest ram available, the biggest gpu available and in some curcumstances you get temeprature issues, cpu limitations or storage limitations thanks to the budget onl allowing a ssd, not a nvme unit

there is always something

if you manage to reach a really specific balanced point, surely your machine will not be future proof, you can't plan for everything

the 1050 ti is low end for some and for others is middle range gpu, not in price, in performance

Atomicdonut17 · Apr 24, 2017

atljsf :

Good point. Bottlenecks do exist, and I never said they didn't, but plenty of optimal machines do their best to skip around that. Of course, it's not avoidable, but you can have a machine that's very close to being equally balance. And, just as you said, it wouldn't be very future-proof by any means. But, that wasn't the point of this question. Simply put; the Phenom will give a bottleneck, as stated several times before, but nothing that should keep you from upgrading.

danielthegreate · Apr 24, 2017

You will always have a bottleneck. Generally speaking, the aim would be to keep the bottleneck on your GPU without wasting too much money on your CPU. This is to utilise all the power your GPU has to offer.

Here is an experiment you can do to find out how much you can utilise the 1050ti:

With your current system, bring down the resolution and graphic detail as low as possible in games you usually play, and see what frame rate you can get. That would be the frames per second that your CPU can push. So you can potentially reach that framerate with a better GPU on higher resolution and detail.

For example, if your current computer can push 80+ fps in cs:go in 720p low setting, you can reach that same frame rate on the 1050ti but in 1080p and with higher detail settings. ie. no need for a new CPU at this point.
On the other hand, if you aren't happy with the fps your current system has in very low setting and resolution, you will definitely need a better CPU.

If you are not particularly a Nvidia fan, you might be able to save some money and get roughly the same or higher performance(depending if you want more fps or detail level) of a 1050ti+ i5 6500 from a Ryzen 1400+RX 570.

RobCrezz · Apr 24, 2017

Atomicdonut17 :

Zerk2012 :

You were true to saying that the 1050 Ti isn't a high end card, and it isn't. And, no, the bottleneck presented will be small, and really justifiable for the upgrade performance of a 130-dollar GPU. HOWEVER, you're false to say there's never been a PC built with no bottlenecks. Enthusiast-grade builds are exactly that- builds contemplated, purchased and built on the idea of a no-bottleneck PC. If you put a 1080 Ti with a i7 7700k, you'll find that you have some smooth performance and in virtual statistics, no bottleneck to be recognized. You say most of us don't know what we're talking about with bottlenecks? That's bold to say on a forum dedicated to assisting people. You can edge a fallacy all day long, but you can't deny the 1050 Ti has a bottleneck on the Phenom. It's not so severe that it's not worth getting, but it exist.

Actually he is right. Every build has a bottlneck, weather you can perceive it or not, there is always something limiting the performance, usually GPU in gaming.

atljsf · Apr 24, 2017

for example, last week my pc was running fine gta v, saturday i had a bunch of stuttering on some areas, sunday too

or a update gave me this or i am imagining things

the hardware was fast friday, or the hardware gives bottlenecks or the software, something no one never mentions

anyway, if i have a phenom, i would buy the gtx 1050 ti and later do a system update, a new mainboard, a new cpu and 16 gbs of fast ddr4

what other thing can be said here? where is the op?

Atomicdonut17 · Apr 24, 2017

RobCrezz :

Atomicdonut17 :

Zerk2012 :

You were true to saying that the 1050 Ti isn't a high end card, and it isn't. And, no, the bottleneck presented will be small, and really justifiable for the upgrade performance of a 130-dollar GPU. HOWEVER, you're false to say there's never been a PC built with no bottlenecks. Enthusiast-grade builds are exactly that- builds contemplated, purchased and built on the idea of a no-bottleneck PC. If you put a 1080 Ti with a i7 7700k, you'll find that you have some smooth performance and in virtual statistics, no bottleneck to be recognized. You say most of us don't know what we're talking about with bottlenecks? That's bold to say on a forum dedicated to assisting people. You can edge a fallacy all day long, but you can't deny the 1050 Ti has a bottleneck on the Phenom. It's not so severe that it's not worth getting, but it exist.

Actually he is right. Every build has a bottlneck, weather you can perceive it or not, there is always something limiting the performance, usually GPU in gaming.

I corrected myself earlier, and I agree now, with the evidence placed in front of me: pretty much every machine has a bottleneck, with some being more evident than others.

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