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Advice: $2,000-$2,500 Gaming/MT Build - Is This A Solid Build?

I made a previous post requesting advice and the build I originally suggested has underwent enough changes to warrant a new post, so...

Budget: $2,000 to $2,500
Purpose: Gaming and media creation (i.e., 64-bit, multithreading, etc.)
Preferences: White build (yeah, I know)

Existing Proposed Build *: PC Part Picker

* Not showing in the total price (with links to product pages):
NZXT HALE82 V2 550W 80+ Power Supply - Amazon - Newegg
Estimated Price: $84.99

Additional Points:
- Monitor is already taken care of; 'nuff said.
- Not planning to overclock, but who knows; maybe down the road?
- Not looking to run SLI in the future
- ** I want to add additonal storage (HDD). Ideally, I want a 2TB to 6TB 7,200 RPM drive but I'm still having a tough time selecting one. Is there a clear choice I'm not seeing? A site that will help me narrow down my choice?

Questions I'm seeking an answer for:
1. Will it all work?
2. Am I missing something?
3. Can I expect any headaches during the build or with future use?

Build breakout:
CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
Cooler: Enermax ETS-T50 AXE (White) 62.3 CFM CPU Cooler
MB: MSI Z270 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage #1: Samsung 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Storage #2: See Point (above) **
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (White) ATX Mid Tower Case
PSU: NZXT HALE82 V2 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (USB)

Thanks in advance for your time and consideration with this!
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  1. Everything looks nice here, just a few things:

    1. I've heard a few things about the Tomahawk Arctic boards. Mostly issues with the Ryzen B350's, but some people report a common issue of DOA's and misreading RAM.

    2. The power supply is not bad, but my own personal opinion is to try to make this part a priority. For around 50 bucks more, you can get a gold/platinum rate PSU from a venerable company like EVGA or NZXT (which you've got there) that will last you a long while, and you can have assurance of mind.

    3. As far as cooling solutions, you're pretty good. But, if you ever plan to overclock, you'll want to look into water cooling. Yes, it's completely viable to OC on air, but the common solution is liquid. There's plenty of nice AIO's to make the hassle lessened, like the H100i or H115i from Corsair.

    4. I've used Seagate and Western Digital before, and of all the drives, WD has been my favorite. My old system used a Seagate and within a year it was succumbing to heat death. While any drive can do so, it seemed to do so more rapidly than any other drive I'd ever worked with. I currently use a 1TB WD Blue 7200RPM drive, and it's very effective and speedy for my everyday use- so much so, I'm considering RAIDing another one. If you're looking for 2 and up, I'd recommend the 7200RPM 2TB WD Black. Of course, there are other companies like Toshiba, Hitashi, ETC- but, really, you'll want to stick between Western Digital and Seagate.

    Overall, the system is very nice and will serve you well. Just, a few little revisions. :)
  2. Unperson said:
    I made a previous post requesting advice and the build I originally suggested has underwent enough changes to warrant a new post, so...

    Budget: $2,000 to $2,500
    Purpose: Gaming and media creation (i.e., 64-bit, multithreading, etc.)
    Preferences: White build (yeah, I know)

    Existing Proposed Build *: PC Part Picker

    * Not showing in the total price (with links to product pages):
    NZXT HALE82 V2 550W 80+ Power Supply - Amazon - Newegg
    Estimated Price: $84.99

    Additional Points:
    - Monitor is already taken care of; 'nuff said.
    - Not planning to overclock, but who knows; maybe down the road?
    - Not looking to run SLI in the future
    - ** I want to add additonal storage (HDD). Ideally, I want a 2TB to 6TB 7,200 RPM drive but I'm still having a tough time selecting one. Is there a clear choice I'm not seeing? A site that will help me narrow down my choice?

    Questions I'm seeking an answer for:
    1. Will it all work?
    2. Am I missing something?
    3. Can I expect any headaches during the build or with future use?

    Build breakout:
    CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
    Cooler: Enermax ETS-T50 AXE (White) 62.3 CFM CPU Cooler
    MB: MSI Z270 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
    RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
    Storage #1: Samsung 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
    Storage #2: See Point (above) **
    GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card
    Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (White) ATX Mid Tower Case
    PSU: NZXT HALE82 V2 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
    Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
    OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (USB)

    Thanks in advance for your time and consideration with this!


    If you're not stuck on a white PSU, there are better choices:

    * Rosewill Quark 550
    * EVGA SuperNOVA 550 G3
    * EVGA SuperNOVA 550 G2
    * EVGA SuperNOVA 650 GS
    * EVGA SuperNOVA 550 GS
    * SeaSonic SSR-650RM
    * SeaSonic SSR-550RM
    * XFX P1-550B-BEFX


    EDIT:
    same goes with coolers:

    * CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler
    * Scythe Kotetsu 79.0 CFM CPU Cooler

    Same goes with RAM.

    I understand that, at least by looks, you're trying for a white theme, so these may not fly.
  3. What content creation are you going to do?
  4. Seasonic Silent Snow 750W would be a reasonable replacement for the PSU

    Phanteks offers some huge air coolers that are black/white, you can always get your own white fans for any other typical aluminum radiator.

    Samsung Pro is overkill, you can get 1TB SSD for around that now. Little compromise would be the 960 Evo for significantly less.

    Only two brands to pick from on hard drives. WD/Hitachi/Toshiba or Seagate/Maxtor/Samsung. All others are rebrands, though some of the acquisitions are recent enough there are still some distinct factories. For bulk storage at this price point the WD Caviar Black or Seagate Barracuda.
  5. Atomicdonut17 said:
    Everything looks nice here, just a few things:

    1. I've heard a few things about the Tomahawk Arctic boards...

    2. ...For around 50 bucks more, you can get a gold/platinum rate PSU...

    3. ...But, if you ever plan to overclock, you'll want to look into water cooling... ...like the H100i or H115i from Corsair.

    4. ...WD has been my favorite. ...but, really, you'll want to stick between Western Digital and Seagate..

    1. To be honest, I'm worried about everything in this build working as intended. I've been scouring reviews all over the web have tried to steer clear of items that will give me trouble. I realize the Tomahawk is not the best choice. Initially, I was going with an Asus MAXIMUS IX HERO. While I know it is silly to abandon SLI and other sundries to go with a "cool MB, bro" approach, I still am willing to give it a go.

    2. See my reply to Eximo.

    3. I was eyeing the "Corsair H105 73.0 CFM" during the build, but opted for a fan/grill. Might swap out later though.

    4. You'll probably laugh, but I've been eyeing this: WD Gold 6TB Datacenter - 7200 RPM Class SATA 6 Gb/s 128MB Cache - WD6002FRYZ. Comments stated is "could" be used as a desktop drive and would probably behave better than a standard desktop offering. However, I may end up with: Western Digital Caviar Black 2 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache - WD2002FAEX
  6. okcnaline said:
    What content creation are you going to do?

    I use Vegas Pro 12.0, Sound Forge Pro 11.0, Acid Pro 7.0, PhotoShop, Poser Pro, MediaMonkey, et al. Mostly for personal use and small projects.
  7. Eximo said:
    Seasonic Silent Snow 750W would be a reasonable replacement for the PSU

    Phanteks offers some huge air coolers that are black/white, you can always get your own white fans for any other typical aluminum radiator.

    Samsung Pro is overkill, you can get 1TB SSD for around that now. Little compromise would be the 960 Evo for significantly less.

    Only two brands to pick from on hard drives. WD/Hitachi/Toshiba or Seagate/Maxtor/Samsung. All others are rebrands, though some of the acquisitions are recent enough there are still some distinct factories. For bulk storage at this price point the WD Caviar Black or Seagate Barracuda.

    100% agree on the Seasonic Silent Snow 750W. When I went to look for a good PSU, the only listing I saw for the Silent Snow was on NewEgg (LINK) that priced it for $229.59 and the reviews seem to point to it failing out after 9'ish months. I re-checked and found it also listed on Amazon (LINK) for $139.98. The Amazon listing also is showing some spotty reviews.

    The NZXT HALE82 V2 550W that I listed seems to have better reviews on both NewEgg (92% @ 5 Star - Link) and Amazon (100% @ 5 Star - Link), so I'm not sure if the Seasonic is the best option.

    Your thoughts on Seasonic Silent Snow vs. NZXT HALE82?

    As far as Evo Pro vs. Evo, you're right and I may switch; jury is still out. I chose Pro because I wanted greater assurance that it wasn't going to tank later on and figured the Pro offered more reliability.

    As far as the HDD, please see my reply to Atomicdonut17.
  8. Best answer
    Sounds like you may want more cores for audio editing...

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($379.89 @ OutletPC)
    Motherboard: MSI X370 XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM ATX AM4 Motherboard ($289.88 @ OutletPC)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($244.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Intel 540s 240GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Storage: SK hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($80.49 @ SuperBiiz)
    Storage: Western Digital Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.88 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founders Edition Video Card ($688.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.98 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic Snow Silent 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.49 @ SuperBiiz)
    Other: EK-FC1080 GTX Ti Waterblock ($129.99)
    Other: EK-FC1080 GTX Ti Backplate ($43.99)
    Other: EK-Supremacy EVO ($78.00)
    Other: EK-XRES 140 D5 ($153.99)
    Other: EK-UNI Pump Bracket ($13.49)
    Total: $2502.04
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-21 17:12 EDT-0400

    Only thing left is liters of water, some soft tubes, and a couple of fittings. Comes out to a tad above your budget.
  9. Atomicdonut17 said:
    Everything looks nice here, just a few things:

    1. I've heard a few things about the Tomahawk Arctic boards. Mostly issues with the Ryzen B350's, but some people report a common issue of DOA's and misreading RAM.


    Where is this issue coming from? And how do Ryzen CPUs tie in with an i7-7700K build?
  10. g-unit1111 said:
    Atomicdonut17 said:
    Everything looks nice here, just a few things:

    1. I've heard a few things about the Tomahawk Arctic boards. Mostly issues with the Ryzen B350's, but some people report a common issue of DOA's and misreading RAM.


    Where is this issue coming from? And how do Ryzen CPUs tie in with an i7-7700K build?


    As stated before. I am unsure as to what causes the issue, but I've seen a few complaints on how the Tomahawk Arctics read RAM. It may be JUST WITH THE B350s, but I thought I'd still make it a point. :P
  11. Atomicdonut17 said:
    As stated before. I am unsure as to what causes the issue, but I've seen a few complaints on how the Tomahawk Arctics read RAM. It may be JUST WITH THE B350s, but I thought I'd still make it a point. :P


    Is this point coming from store reviews or from a legitimate source?
  12. g-unit1111 said:
    Atomicdonut17 said:
    As stated before. I am unsure as to what causes the issue, but I've seen a few complaints on how the Tomahawk Arctics read RAM. It may be JUST WITH THE B350s, but I thought I'd still make it a point. :P


    Is this point coming from store reviews or from a legitimate source?


    Mainly store reviews. You can discount or disregard the statement as you please, it's just a nod to a possible issue that might arise.
  13. Atomicdonut17 said:
    Mainly store reviews. You can discount or disregard the statement as you please, it's just a nod to a possible issue that might arise.


    Yeah store reviews are not meant to be gospel, they should be taken with massive grains of salt. And blanket statements like "As stated before. I am unsure as to what causes the issue, but I've seen a few complaints on how the Tomahawk Arctics read RAM. It may be JUST WITH THE B350s, but I thought I'd still make it a point. :p ".

    You can make that point, but you should have real research to back up your claims, not just meaningless drivel from store reviews, because that's how misinformation gets out in the open. Yeah the RAM issue is a problem with B350 and X370 boards, but AMD has corrected this. The thing about store reviews is that you don't know what this person did to cause the DOAs, and most of the time it's because they didn't read the manuals prior to installation, or a lot of times the negative reviews have nothing to do with the product themselves. And again, what happens on the AMD version of the motherboard is completely irrelevant to what happens on the Intel version of the board. The AMD RAM issues happen when you enable the full speed of DDR4, using the AMD equivalent of XMP, called DOCP. But that's recently been fixed with a BIOS update, so it's irrelevant to the reviews that have been posted. And that's also irrelevant to an i7-7700K board because Intel's XMP does not have this issue. If the OP were considering both CPUs - an R7-1700X or an i7-7700K as options, then you could make that statement.
  14. g-unit1111 said:
    Atomicdonut17 said:
    Mainly store reviews. You can discount or disregard the statement as you please, it's just a nod to a possible issue that might arise.


    Yeah store reviews are not meant to be gospel, they should be taken with massive grains of salt. And blanket statements like "As stated before. I am unsure as to what causes the issue, but I've seen a few complaints on how the Tomahawk Arctics read RAM. It may be JUST WITH THE B350s, but I thought I'd still make it a point. :p ".

    You can make that point, but you should have real research to back up your claims, not just meaningless drivel from store reviews, because that's how misinformation gets out in the open. Yeah the RAM issue is a problem with B350 and X370 boards, but AMD has corrected this. The thing about store reviews is that you don't know what this person did to cause the DOAs, and most of the time it's because they didn't read the manuals prior to installation, or a lot of times the negative reviews have nothing to do with the product themselves. And again, what happens on the AMD version of the motherboard is completely irrelevant to what happens on the Intel version of the board. The AMD RAM issues happen when you enable the full speed of DDR4, using the AMD equivalent of XMP, called DOCP. But that's recently been fixed with a BIOS update, so it's irrelevant to the reviews that have been posted. And that's also irrelevant to an i7-7700K board because Intel's XMP does not have this issue. If the OP were considering both CPUs - an R7-1700X or an i7-7700K as options, then you could make that statement.


    Good point. I'll be sure to check myself next time. :)
  15. I'm not an expert but if you are planning to overclock down the road I would upgrade to a liquid cooler even something cheap like a H110i v2 from corsair
  16. willlane said:
    I'm not an expert but if you are planning to overclock down the road I would upgrade to a liquid cooler even something cheap like a H110i v2 from corsair



    While liquid Cooling can offer some of the best cooling, it isn't always necessarily all that much better than HSF (heatsink-fan) Technology, albeit liquid cooling does offer less weight and stress on the motherboard. A solid air cooler will also do quite well in cooling an overclocked rig.
  17. Go to this site... 'TechBuyer's Guru'... ( http://techbuyersguru.com/ ) The guy, Ari Altman is EXCELLENT... very helpful. I built a gaming rig w/ his input... helped a great deal.

    Brian

    Unperson said:
    I made a previous post requesting advice and the build I originally suggested has underwent enough changes to warrant a new post, so...

    Budget: $2,000 to $2,500
    Purpose: Gaming and media creation (i.e., 64-bit, multithreading, etc.)
    Preferences: White build (yeah, I know)

    Existing Proposed Build *: PC Part Picker

    * Not showing in the total price (with links to product pages):
    NZXT HALE82 V2 550W 80+ Power Supply - Amazon - Newegg
    Estimated Price: $84.99

    Additional Points:
    - Monitor is already taken care of; 'nuff said.
    - Not planning to overclock, but who knows; maybe down the road?
    - Not looking to run SLI in the future
    - ** I want to add additonal storage (HDD). Ideally, I want a 2TB to 6TB 7,200 RPM drive but I'm still having a tough time selecting one. Is there a clear choice I'm not seeing? A site that will help me narrow down my choice?

    Questions I'm seeking an answer for:
    1. Will it all work?
    2. Am I missing something?
    3. Can I expect any headaches during the build or with future use?

    Build breakout:
    CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
    Cooler: Enermax ETS-T50 AXE (White) 62.3 CFM CPU Cooler
    MB: MSI Z270 TOMAHAWK ARCTIC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
    RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
    Storage #1: Samsung 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
    Storage #2: See Point (above) **
    GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card
    Case: Fractal Design Define R5 w/Window (White) ATX Mid Tower Case
    PSU: NZXT HALE82 V2 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
    Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
    OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (USB)

    Thanks in advance for your time and consideration with this!
  18. I personally prefer liquid cooling but I have friends that have a heatsink its just from experience from previous custom pc's that I prefer liquid but in-general they do the same thing its just that for unlocked processors I would recommend a liquid where as a locked processor I would use a heatsink
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