Custom Sleeved Cables Not Matching The Original Cables

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Hey everyone;

I am building a modest gaming PC this is my first built and there are some things that I can’t find the answers of from google.
Please forgive my lack of basic knowledge.

OK,
I have bought Corsair HX1000i PSU and I have ordered custom sleeved cables specially for that PSU model. The thing that’s troubling me because of my limited understanding is the way cables are made. They are different & wirings patterns are not matching with the cables that came in the PSU box. I don’t know if that’s a big deal or not but I am scared I don’t know what will happen if I the cables are faulty. I have no basic knowledge of electricity and how it works I contacted the seller he said it doesn’t matter which pin is blank and which is not main thing is voltage. But I still don’t want to risk it as I have saved a whole year for this built and I don’t just want to fry the whole system for some cables. Anyways the seller assured me that the worst-case scenario is that if the cables are made wrong the system won't power on.
I don’t have knowledge and resources to check the cables to find out whether they will work or not. So, I am posting pictures for further explanation so you can see what I mean and see if there is anything wrong.

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BTW I have tried plugging the cables in Mobo and PSU separately without any power and they plug in just fine without resistance.

I have also tried to get the pin-out diagrams of the PSU specially 24 pin connector and by (following the cable by cable from one end to the other) the way he has managed the cables is different.

Here are the components I am building my gaming Pc with.

Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2 GHz
Corsair HX1000i Watts
Asus ROG Strix 1080 Ti OC
MSI Z270 Gaming M7
G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-3200 MHz - 32GB QC16
Samsung 960 EVO SSD M.2 - 250GB
NZXT Kraken X52
Corsair X460 (Three front SP120s included)
Custom Sleeved Cables
3 x Corsair SP120 (2x Top 1x Back)
NZXT HUE+ with 4x LED RGB Strips


Thanks, in Advance.
 
seeing all that is ''keyed to fit '' in proper spots I would show them pic to who ever you ordered the custom cables from and get them to explain or make right ?

when you ordered them was there a compatibility lisrt [PSU end ] the ends that go to hardware should be all standard uniform ATX speced keyed

]all GPU are keyed to fit the cable ends and motherboard keyed all the same . the PSU end of thing would be the only thing that maybe different between models/brands

http://www.overclock.net/a/gpu-and-cpu-power-connections
 

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I did ask the seller about the cables not matching as I have mentioned already he said this doesn't matter the "Live is on the bottom 4 and Ground is on the top 4" And I didn't even know what he was talking about I asked him to return but he said check them first if the cables are not working I will take them back. And no there was no list but I told him to make the cable for Corsair HX1000i when he asked me about the PSU model.
But again my question is can use these cables and if I use these cables what can go wrong am I going to damage the whole system?
 
ya it matters when you try to mash to square in the round hols and chew up your cards or motherboards power sockets and ruin them ..

or they goofed it all up and one wire is hot that should be ground or something ?? there keyed like that for a reason to prevent you from putting the wrong cable in the wrong place or way not just for cramming them in any old way In the hopes there right and don't short something out

where did you buy these custom cables from and what part numbers ??? or links to your stuff from there site
 

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Like I mentioned in my post I tried to plug the cables they fit just fine without any resistance. Have you even read what I wrote above there? :) The cables fit fine in the sockets that's not the problem.
My question again is, Whats the worst case scenario? What can happen if the cables are mapped wrong
 
worse case ? wired wrong like I said - thing is there not keyed right to start with the guys you bought it from just tells you to stick them in as that ??

its there word and your risk to proceed I guess peel back the sleeves at the connectors and see if there all wired the same as the stock factory wires that came from corsair ??

out side of doing that and insuring there wired up correct not right is not right to me

I guess if you and them feel putting the square peg in the round hole is normal and fine ??? you would think for what cables cost you would at least get the correct and proper ends that match correctly to how there keyed ???

maybe find some wiring diagrams

http://www.overclock.net/t/1420796/repository-of-power-supply-pin-outs

like told here from corsair store

''AX Series PCI-E cable, compatible with AX1200 only '' so with that something on the PSU side must be different on that unit ??

http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/ax-series-pci-e-cable-compatible-with-ax1200-only

what you got was fit what ever how ever good luck
 

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SO If I try those cables will it permanently damage the components ?
I am less than a rookie in this voltage wattage thing wires give me headache. I just wanna know if its safe to test the cables on my system to find out whether they work or not. If they don't work than I can send him the cables back and get my money back.
BTW I really really appreciate your time with me :)
 
well cant say ?? you have them in your hand and the factory ones the wiring / colors should be the same as properly to be plugged in to the psu and hardware ?

''where did you buy these custom cables from and what part numbers ??? or links to your stuff from there site ''

you could of got a sleeve kit to do the factory cables yourself ? out side of that if you don't check that yourself your then taking there word on its all good . thing is if any of what you got was like it should be like as the factory cables you would not even be here asking and worrying . I cant inspect and go over each cable and wire from here over the internet

maybe there wired right but they used cheap bulk connectors if not its between you and them

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l2/g35/c183/list/p1/SleevingHeatshrink-Sleeving_Kits.html


like this
'' And no there was no list but I told him to make the cable for Corsair HX1000i when he asked me about the PSU model.'' see then he gives you then connectors you got that don't match ???? don't know man ???

if they work fine then fine if they don't or short something then what ?? that guy stops returning your calls ?? unless you can check yourself that there all wired up same as the factory one your at his mercy and trust on that

if the wiring is right but the connectors are wrong but fits easy it should be good

like I said not right 100% just is not right in my book

i'll PM a toms guy [sr71blackbird ] to look at this and see if he will put his 2 cent worth in
 
I keep forgetting that that one picture with the blank hole in the opposite [5th picture down is the worry one ?? ] gpu cable psu end 8-pin [then I'm pretty sure that for the CPU 8-pin not gpu on top of that gpu should be all 6+2 pin [like pic 6 ]

that's the one that bothers me the most sure looks like a goof

 

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I think 6+2 gives you a choice to use either 6 or 8-pin with the same cable mine was 8-pin so I don't think that's a big deal.
So you are saying its dangerous to use them if they are wired wrong?
 
''So you are saying its dangerous to use them if they are wired wrong? ''

I would think so and catching that one [pic 5 ] that's blank on the left side when the corsair's factory one is blank on the right ??? I could be wrong but you say it gpu 8-pin then look at the gpu 6+2 you have theres no blank holes in that ???

like here just looking at random cpu 8-pin and gpu 8 -pin I don't see any blank [corsair ]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Corsair-CPU-PSU-8-Pin-to-8-Pin-Power-Supply-Modular-2FT-Cable-/322479522343

only if I could assume its a ground it will not hurt as far as I see it seems to be the side with the clip is the ground wire side of the plug on that ??

lots of info on the hardware side of things but not much to nothing on the PSu side

best I can see on that cable that row that has the blank is ground wires side and one sensor so it maybe OK .

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so having a blank in the far right or left may not matter ??

none of my PSU's have any blank ones like corsair on the PSU side . I looked them over to see maybe corsair saves money on a strand of wire doing that ??

thing is if that guy who made the cables made them the same as the factory ones you never would of 2ed guessed them in the first place

maybe blackbird will pop in here some time today and see what he says ?
 

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I think you misunderstood, with the originals one end that goes into PSU has one blank and the other 6+2pin that goes in GPU has none.
Same is with the custom made cables but the Blank that goes into PSU is bottom left rather than right the GPU end has none.
 

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Worst case scenario?
Poof. You let the magic smoke out, rendering one or more components toast.

Actually, the worst case is that the PSU catches on fire, and burns your house down.

I've not studied your pics to validate it one way or the other.
But the fact that you're here asking the question leads to questionable connections.

Don't sacrifice compatibility for fancy colored sleeves.
 
ya and I looked at it wrong that blank holes you point out are on the 'POWER'' side not the ground as I said that could be a issue ..


to me that now makes that a bit more untrustworthy then if it was the ground side ..

thing is if your not comfortable with it then don't use it . that guy you got them from just tells you its all fine but its not his 200$ computer or 500$ graphics card hooking up to it ,right ??

then if it is wrong wheres he at then ?? you never answered where you got the cables from ? like a trusted known store like cable mod or some guy you found on e-bay ??

if your not trusting it don't use it

thanks usaf for the reply
 
just to add you could remoce the plugs from the custom cable that's at issue and put it as needed ?? the wire with the pins come out easy with a safety pin you use to hold down the little clip and pull out gently then arrange the wires to the holes you want and then push them back in and they will click / lock in place ?

look at cable sleeveing guides on that . its not hard to do to make your custom cable correct

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/5438-how-to-remove-to-atx-power-connector-pins-without-special-tools/

http://www.overclock.net/t/1006680/how-to-remove-the-pins-from-an-atx-power-supply-with-staples

only thing is knowing if its yellow [power] or black wire [ground ] but maybe just a simple move it to the correct side and match as like the corsair one ?

or re do them all in order and be goof proof
 

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Its
http://www.shakmods.com/
The guy tells me that he has been doing this for years and the cables will work fine and to be honest I don't wana be an a-hole to him I just wanted to test them first and then send them if they are faulty. I think I just wasted my money. This Gaming PC thing is eating me its never simple all that money I have saved and spent seems like its gonna get wasted in the end.
 
well I been doing things for years , don't mean I still cant get in a hurry and make a mistake ??

like I showed just pull the wiring out of the plug and put them just like the corsair factory one ?? don't worry about color just worry there in correct order

grounds in the ground row and hot in the hot and the blank in the blank .. make ti the same as the corsair factory and should be fine ..

only reason it feels like a waste of money is due to you when spent on something frivolous like them cables for looks . all I care about it what it looks like on my monitor display

like we say in the hot rod world ''all show and no go '' .

thing is now if you use them and they work fine , then fine if they don't and something goes poof , well that now between you and him ?

shakemod seems fairly reputable I see they had a partnership with EK and a hardware review of there cables ??

thing is I don't see how that guy can see that side by side picture you posted and say its good ??

cause after I caught my mistake its that the top row [with the clip thing ] are the ground

the borttom row that's got the blank on the corsairs according to that diagram is for a sence 1 and black as like a ground or blank on the corsair cable

BUT he got that where it should be yellow / hot/12v where it should be the blank and blank where there on the corsair is wired ????

so with that is that now going to put power where nothing should be or a sence / black/ ground ??


† The Sense0 and Sense1 pins form a code that tells the video card which kind of power connector is available. When both are grounded (black wire), this tells the video card that an eight-pin connector is used. This is the reason why on eight-pin connector pins four and six are grounded.
Read more at http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-power-supplies/14/#LPukG6Did1oS4rQ0.99


I just don't see how he cant see its not right and will nor resolve out side of a brush off and saying ''he has been doing this for years and the cables will work fine ''

to me he got that wired where you got power or something where nothing or a ground / sence wire should go

all my psu 's are fully wired up and I have no ''blank '' plugs , so ???
 

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OK here is a thing to I searched some people in my little city and found one who would help me, I went to him told him everything. He also said that ground is ground it doesn't matter which side it is. Then he suggested me to buy a multi meter and test the voltages myself I bought the cheapest one that is 100 dkk (11.50 GBP). But I don't know how to use it as I never did before and that's how ignorant I am...
Anyways here is a thing I searched the pinout for corsair and the one couldn't find any that matches HX1000i (surprised) but some how I have found the Green and Black and used paperclip so when I turn on the PSU fan keeps spinning. I first tired it on original stock cables and then custom cables result is both cables had same green spot. So that I can confirm is right. Now when I tested the 8 pin PCIe by putting the Black pin into the ground hole and red into the 12v hole it shows me minus (-) 4.43 on both stock and custom so there is definitely something that I am missing. (OK now I know why its giving me minus reading its because I using it opposite but still it gives me 4.43 volts where as it should give me 12+ volts) I have tested to multi-meter on a 3.7 volt battery it give me 4.00 volts.
Posting the pictures of the cable the multi-meter please see if I am doing anything wrong.
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I followed this pattern but on my PSU its not the same.
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I don't know ?? if me I guess I would like I said remove the plugs from the wires of the new custom cable you feel is wrong and wire it back just like the corsairs stock factory one wire for wire use your meter to check that each wire on one end goes the same as the other end ???

then there the same and not a issue anymore the plugs are not hard to remove from each wire just hold the little clips as shown in them links I gave on that once you do a few it gets easyer to do once you get the hang of it ?

I wish I was there to show you just how easy that is to do
 

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Lets forget the custom cables for a little time, I checked the stock cables and PCIE showing 4.43 volts instead of 12 volts.
have tested to multi-meter on a 3.7 volt battery it give me 4.00 volts so multi-meter seem to be working fine but why am i getting 4.43v instead of 12v?
 

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I think so because so far the 8-pin PCIe custom cables match with 6+2pin stock cables showing same voltage numbers 4.43v and grounds are grounds the only one that's left is 24pin. I am now 50% positive that the cable will be fine its just the PSU showing low voltage. I will write corsair tomorrow and see what they say thanks for you time and patience. :)
 

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Hey Buddy I'm back again :??:
Here is the thing I returned the Corsair HX1000i PSU because on the multi-meter it was showing low voltage. Then I bought AX1200i and guess what same voltage connected two fans via molex tired everything still gives voltage between 4.3 to 4.4. I googled but no luck so what to do now? Is there anything I am missing?