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What about the following. It's basically the same but with an air tower cooler, a 1600, better RAM, a single 525GB SSD, and - most importantly - a 1080ti which will make a big difference for your 4K gaming.

I couldn't be bothered overriding everything to Amazon, but I've checked, and all the parts below are available at Amazon:

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($218.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($121.99 @...
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Not quite. Not even the 1080ti can "max out" 4K in all games. It'll have a good go at it. Should hit 60fps on demanding titles if you lower the settings just a little.

Out of curiosity, have you already purchased the parts? Sacrificing a few less performance critical components could get you to a 1080ti at the same budget.
 
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Pranav Venkatesh

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Havent purchased anything yet. Any changes?
 
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Yeah... a region would help. But here's my questions/suggestions:

- High end closed loop liquid cooler suggests you're going to be overclocking? Why waste money on the 1600X then? Add an OC to the 1600 (non X) and they're the identical CPU.
- Do you really need to spend that much on cooling? That's a nice cooler to be sure, but Ryzen CPUs can only get to 3.9-4Ghz, and they don't need that much cooling to get them there. Something like a Cryorig H5 tower cooler would net you basically the same OC for over $100 less. If water cooling is for portability or aesthetics that's up to you, but just be aware you can get plenty of cooling for far less money.
- Two SSDs + a HDD. I don't understand why you'd do that. You could get a ~500GB Sata SSD for that amount of cash which will perform very similarly in real world tasks. Or just stick with a single 250GB unit (I'd suggest SATA - NVMe drives are overpriced and poor value on a gaming build), and save the case for more important components (like a 1080ti!)
- You should get the GSkill Flare X Ram. Even the 2400Mhz kit can usually be OC'd pretty high. Ryzen likes fast RAM and those kits have been shown to work well and OC well on Ryzen platforms.

Really nice build though. You'll have a lot of fun with that.
 
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Pranav Venkatesh

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Im from India, but Im gonna ship from Amazon USA :D
RE: So both processors can reach same clock speeds when OC-ed?
 
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Probably. You're at the mercy of the silicone lottery. AMD are claiming to have done some binning which does could mean you get a slightly better chance of a higher clock with the X CPU. The thing is though, just about any Ryzen CPU can get to 3.9Ghz, and few few can get to 4.1Ghz stable without very high voltages, higher than most would be comfortable to run for a 24/7 OC. What I'm saying is, if you're unlucky with either CPU you'll get 3.9Ghz, and if you're lucky you'll get 4Ghz... there's basically no difference, who cares!?
 
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What about the following. It's basically the same but with an air tower cooler, a 1600, better RAM, a single 525GB SSD, and - most importantly - a 1080ti which will make a big difference for your 4K gaming.

I couldn't be bothered overriding everything to Amazon, but I've checked, and all the parts below are available at Amazon:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($218.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($121.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card ($699.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT H440 (Matte Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair SP140 49.5 CFM 140mm Fans ($28.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus PB287Q 28.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor ($349.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1956.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-23 20:56 EDT-0400
 
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Honestly if it's 4K you're going for, I would be inclined to suggest the i7-7700K over a Ryzen build. The only reason I'd go with an R5 is if you're on a budget but that doesn't seem to be the case. In most tests on most games the 7700K will perform a bit better. I wouldn't bother with a liquid cooler, especially one that expensive. You won't gain anything from it, and a reasonable air cooler performs just as well. I would suggest something like this:


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CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (₹27400.00 @ Amazon India)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler (₹11843.00 @ Amazon India)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z270MX-Gaming 5 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (₹10838.03 @ Amazon India)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (₹9483.19 @ Amazon India)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (₹8075.00 @ Amazon India)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (₹3614.00 @ Amazon India)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Extreme Video Card (₹34542.97 @ Amazon India)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case (₹6773.52 @ Amazon India)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (₹31030.00 @ Amazon India)
Total: ₹143599.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-24 07:21 IST+0530
 
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4K Gaming with a 1080 and 7700K vs R5 1600 and 1080ti? That's a poor component selection IMHO. Differences between the 7700K and any Ryzen CPU shrink to very little at 1440P, and disappear almost entirely at 4K. Whereas the 1080ti over the 1080 will net you significant gains in every game. For 1080P 144hz the 7700K makes sense, but 4K, I'd take the theoretically slower (for gaming) CPU and the 1080ti every time... and I'd wager that at least 95% of game benchmarks would agree.
 
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Top of the line Intel CPU is a poor selection over a mid range Ryzen CPU? A $350 CPU does not really compare to a $220 one with an expensive cooler. And 4K does not equal 1440P. 4K is an entirely different beast and I have a 4K monitor, so I know from experience. I'd rather lose the expensive cooler and put more money into the hardware. I'm definitely for having better graphics and I'd include the 1080TI for sure if the budget allows for it.
 
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If you look at my responses I've been advocating ditching that cooler since the first post. The difference is, for 4K gaming I'm arguing the money saved should be used on a 1080ti, not a 7700K. OP is only targetting 60 fps. Any i5/i7 Ryzen 5/Ryzen 7 can do that just fine... CPU really doesn't matter much at all.

Why would you waste money on a 7700K that's going to sit woefully underutilised in a 4K gaming rig? If OP's build has a 1080ti and everything else she/he wants, and OP still has money to burn, then the 7700K/Ryzen 7 (or whatever) question arises. But let's prioritise that 1080ti first... it's really the main thing that matters for 4K.
 
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Oh don't get me wrong - I totally agree with you. I would take a 1080TI any day of the week if you're going to be gaming at 4K. And for that price range I would probably take an R5-1600X or an i5-7600K in the ~$250 range over just about anything else you can get.
 
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OK - sounds like we're on the same page then. 1080ti is priority number one. If OP still has budget left after that, looking at a higher tier CPU **might** be worthwhile down the line when a GPU upgrade enables higher frame rates.

Let me make one thing clear that if you buy from Amazon.com the total including shipping and customs charges components will cost nearly the same as what you get in India and if you buy from India you will get warranty.
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I'm not familiar with the Indian market, but that sounds like a valid point you're making. I'll leave you to advise OP on where to source parts from.
 
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Yeah the hard thing is the OP didn't specify a budget. Without knowing that it's kind of difficult to recommend components - especially when things like a monitor are needed. If the budget allows I'd go for a 7700K over a 1600X, and I would definitely take a 1080TI.
 
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If you are ordering from Global store at Amazon.in then please think before you proceed. There will be NO warranty. I even checked with Gigabyte, EVGA and ASUS India regarding warranty.
 
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Not the global store. Im directly shipping from Amazon.com. Even that has no warranty ? o_O
 
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Pranav Venkatesh

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But Amazon says I only need to pay some 3-5$ for each part shipping. And why wont I get warranty? o_O

 
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I dont think so. Until and unless it has stated "International Warranty* on the products box/website, the warranty won't be covered in India and you may need to ship it back to US incase of any defect. Also, on Amazon.com, go to final checkout page, there you will see import/duty fee included in the final payment. I bet it'll be more than $3-5.
 
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Even if the shipping cost is only of $3-5 it is excluding customs charges. There is a possibility that you can get the total price including customs duty on last checkout page. If the customs charges are not included on last page that means you will have to pay extra on delivery.

The main point is that all the items listed on Amazon.com have their warranty limited to US by default. There are very few products that comes with international warranty so check the warranty information before buying.
 
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Pranav Venkatesh

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Then please help me with a build in INR. Rs. 1,20,000 inclusive of a monitor
 
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Will you be buying everything online? I'll suggest to check your local computer market first, a big computer market like one in Delhi, Nehru Place. The configuration given by rhysiam is pretty decent but am afraid you wont be able to get that in Rs. 1,20,000. Infact, you wont be able to get any system under that price which can play games at 4k. If you want to make it under Rs. 1,20,000 you need to downgrade your GPU to 1070(you can check 1080 mini also), montitor to 1080/1440p, semi modular PSU to wired ones and remove your SSD as well in the configuration suggested by rhysiam. To make it further cheaper, you may check other compatible case and case fans.
 
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