i5 7600k vs 1600x
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Don't get the 1600X... just get the 1600. OC's just as well and includes a decent cooler. Here's a copy-paste from a response I made on another thread...
I strongly believe that the Ryzen 5 1600 invalidates just about any i5 right now. The only case you can make for an Intel i5 is if you're prepared to pay a little more for a 7600K, OC it as far as you can, and game at 1080P on a 144hz or higher display with a very high end GPU (really only 1080ti right now)... AND, you only care about current games and performance right now. A Ryzen 5 1600 is cheaper, and with cheaper mobos it can be OC'd to 3.8-3.9Ghz on the bundled cooler... saving even more cash because the 7600K requires you to buy one.
For example, you can get a Ryzen 5 1600 @ 3.8-3.9Ghz with a motherboard on the bundled cooler for $290 right now.
By the time you get an overclockable mobo and cheap cooler, an i5 7600K comes in at over $350
You can make the Intel platform cheaper by abandoning overclocking, but once you do that, the Ryzen 5 1600 (@3.8Ghz) will at least match, and probably beat a locked i5 7500 across a broad array of games. And that's right now, before much optimisation has taken place and with no eyes to the future. Also, if you're on a 1070 or slower GPU, the difference between Ryzen and Intel disappears in just about every title.
The other issue with the i5s arises when you consider the CPU usage and 1%/0.1% lows we are seeing in a number of titles. We're already seeing a number of games where the lows on i5s are not good, well under half the average frame rates, while Ryzen CPUs with their extra cores and threads don't suffer (look at games like Total War: Warhammer and Metro Last Light in THIS review). Also, if you look at the CPU usage of an i5 in a demanding title you'll see all cores pegged in the 90s... there is no more headroom on those CPUs. Those sporadic frame rate dips on i5s suggest that there are already edge cases where they can't keep up. Right now they're few and far between and generally speaking not a real problem, but if future games become more CPU demanding, i5s have nothing more to give. They're maxed out.
Of course, as well, as soon as you consider anything threaded outside of gaming Ryzen 5s utterly demolish any i5.
I strongly believe that the Ryzen 5 1600 invalidates just about any i5 right now. The only case you can make for an Intel i5 is if you're prepared to pay a little more for a 7600K, OC it as far as you can, and game at 1080P on a 144hz or higher display with a very high end GPU (really only 1080ti right now)... AND, you only care about current games and performance right now. A Ryzen 5 1600 is cheaper, and with cheaper mobos it can be OC'd to 3.8-3.9Ghz on the bundled cooler... saving even more cash because the 7600K requires you to buy one.
For example, you can get a Ryzen 5 1600 @ 3.8-3.9Ghz with a motherboard on the bundled cooler for $290 right now.
By the time you get an overclockable mobo and cheap cooler, an i5 7600K comes in at over $350
You can make the Intel platform cheaper by abandoning overclocking, but once you do that, the Ryzen 5 1600 (@3.8Ghz) will at least match, and probably beat a locked i5 7500 across a broad array of games. And that's right now, before much optimisation has taken place and with no eyes to the future. Also, if you're on a 1070 or slower GPU, the difference between Ryzen and Intel disappears in just about every title.
The other issue with the i5s arises when you consider the CPU usage and 1%/0.1% lows we are seeing in a number of titles. We're already seeing a number of games where the lows on i5s are not good, well under half the average frame rates, while Ryzen CPUs with their extra cores and threads don't suffer (look at games like Total War: Warhammer and Metro Last Light in THIS review). Also, if you look at the CPU usage of an i5 in a demanding title you'll see all cores pegged in the 90s... there is no more headroom on those CPUs. Those sporadic frame rate dips on i5s suggest that there are already edge cases where they can't keep up. Right now they're few and far between and generally speaking not a real problem, but if future games become more CPU demanding, i5s have nothing more to give. They're maxed out.
Of course, as well, as soon as you consider anything threaded outside of gaming Ryzen 5s utterly demolish any i5.
how about motherboard, x370 or B350 for overclocking, I can't decide either, would an X370 chipset be better at overclocking than a B350? I was thinking either this x370 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XNYR69Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER or this B350 https://www.amazon.com/MSI-B350-Motherboard-PC-MATE/dp/B06XPM7FSR/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1492997302&sr=1-3&keywords=b350+motherboard
You don't need an X370 board unless there are features (like the extra USB 3 ports, or dual x8 PCIe slots) that matter to you.
Ryzen hits a pretty hard ceiling around 4Ghz. The best chips seem to get 4.1Ghz on 24/7 OCs, the worst get 3.9-3.95Ghz. Because of that, it just doesn't seem worth investing in better OCing motherboards and high end cooling. You could spend $100-200 extra on a better board and cooling and you'd be likely to eek out 100Mhz more at most... that's it. Honestly there are loads of reviews with people getting the R5 1600 to 3.9Ghz on the bundled cooler... 3.8Ghz might be more realistic, but that's still solid.
What GPU are you considering here? Or do you already have one? By going a 1600 on a B350 board and ditching the H60 nets you well over $100, probably close to $150. That's potentially a big difference in GPU horsepower which is going to have waaaay more impact on your gaming performance than motherboard or cooling.
Okay, that's all good then. Just check you have the AM4 mounting kit for the H60.
There's a table about half way down this page comparing B350 to X370 boards. Have a look and decide whether the extra features on the X370 boards are worth the extra money to you. Motherboards really don't impact performance, it's all about features. It's unlikely you'll get a better 24/7 OC out of a better board.
H60 supports am4 out of box, and ended up entering the msi motherboard giveaway to see if i can nab a free x370 motherboard, probably will have to pay shipping i do win however, but the chances of that is very slim, here's the link if you want to see it and it's not my refer code... https://www.msi.com/Landing/dragon-squad?utm_source=msi&utm_medium=banner&utm_term=&utm_content=msi-banner&utm_campaign=dragon-squad#Campaign1
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