1800x vs i7 7700k 1080ti streaming vs raw gaming

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Hello I have never built a pc so If I ask stupid stuff I apologise.
Im looking for some advice on this build ( https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/TfWzgL ) vs a i7 7700k build.
My questions are :
1. Is the difference between fps from the i7 and r8 something I should neglect @ 1440p 144hz (eventuality)
2. Is the gain when streaming going to be worth the drop in raw gaming performance ? If im not steaming and I disabled SMT and dedicated 4 cores to gaming will this close the gap in raw gaming?
3. Any one stream on a i7 7700k that can link me a VOD so I can see quality ect?
4. On part picker it states I may need a bracket for cpu cooler can someone confirm this or link me what part it meens ?
5. Ram speed is the ram I have picked overkill ? Will speed affect fps or stream quality is the any advantage to having a x2 16g kit vs a 4x 8g kit? Do I have to manually oc the ram to achieve the speed or is it just plug and go ?
5. Anyone have a 1800x How are you finding if for gameing so far?
Thanks for you time and I appreciate your input and opinions.
 
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1. Based on benchmarks of overclocked i7 and r7, 7700k is better in the most games, in other games ryzen 7 is just a bit faster...
This question can trigger so many people, but i would go with intel just because i had never had any problem with it before. Cant trust amd just yet. So its more like personal thing...
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jludqTnPpnU, but a major difference was quality and how fast each cpu can process. So 7700k showed better graphical quality when amd a bit worse, but not like will be very noticable. But amd have performed much smoother. Seems like amd is better for streaming atm.
4. For example new New noctua coolers that currently comes from factory include am4 mounting braket, but for example if you buy...
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I would personally go for the 7700k i had one until I upgraded to a 6950X and it was very good for streaming and recording gameplay. As for your RAM, it can't really be "overkill" it just means it is faster. Anyway the ram is very good and I would go for the 4x8GB cuz it means it will act in quad channel
 
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1. Based on benchmarks of overclocked i7 and r7, 7700k is better in the most games, in other games ryzen 7 is just a bit faster...
This question can trigger so many people, but i would go with intel just because i had never had any problem with it before. Cant trust amd just yet. So its more like personal thing...
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jludqTnPpnU, but a major difference was quality and how fast each cpu can process. So 7700k showed better graphical quality when amd a bit worse, but not like will be very noticable. But amd have performed much smoother. Seems like amd is better for streaming atm.
4. For example new New noctua coolers that currently comes from factory include am4 mounting braket, but for example if you buy from a shop where that coolers were laying for years it will not include am4 braket, so before u order one make sure it says that coolers is am4 compatible somewhere in description. But if it happen that cooler come without am4 mounting u can just ask manufacturer to send u one for free or little of charge, so dont worry.
5. Yes its pretty much overkill, based on price and benchmarks 3200 is sweet spot for your budget, after this number ull be pretty much wasting your money for nothing. But if you ready to pay 2.5k for a computer then go bigger, dont u know how it works in US :D
 
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Have you not seen any benchmarks for the Ryzen CPU's? Ryzen imo has the best price to performance ratio
 
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For gaming? 7700K is still better. The 1800X falls somewhere in the middle of the pack:

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Saying "And it's got a bright future ahead of it" is a pretty blanket statement without having any facts to back it up. I pulled these benchmarks up within a 2 second search on Google.
 
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Well agree, but u cant just throw 1 random game and say ryzen is worse.
Yeah GTA 5 has better fps on intel, but i can aswell throw a game here that runs better on ryzen like u do.
 
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All right:

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Do you see any of those benchmarks where Ryzen is faster for gaming?
 
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I'm not sure where you heard me say that it's better for gaming but ok. I said Ryzen imo is the best multi purpose CPU. Multipurpose meaning Gaming, Editing, intensive task. I say a Ryzen has a bright future ahead of it because soon our games will be using up more cores and Ryzen is already prepared for that as far as we know.
 
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I have a Ryzen 1700x and game, record, and stream all at the same time with no issue. Ryzen is the way to go if you plan on doing all of those things. For pure gaming Intel still wins but for multimedia applications Ryzen is the way to fo.
 
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Pure gaming, the 7700k wins out. For streaming a Ryzen 7 1700x makes a good deal of sense. 1800x isn't worth its price premium. At 1440p the gaming difference is generally quite small. Now back to the build you listed. Ram should be 2x8gb and Ryzen hasn't been able to run at such speeds, so that is a waste. 32gb really isn't necessary either. If you really want RGB 32gb ram, then go with a less expensive 3000 or 3200 kit. You could do better, with less money, by exchanging for less expensive components.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor (£335.94 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG A80 128.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£112.86 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-AX370-Gaming K5 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£162.26 @ More Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£152.95 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£221.94 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£79.50 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Video Card (£695.90 @ Alza)
Case: Corsair Crystal 460X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (£134.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 (EU) 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£123.86 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£84.60 @ Aria PC)
Total: £2104.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-26 16:38 BST+0100
 
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For things like Photoshop and video editing, Ryzen R7-1800X and R7-1700X are for sure the better CPU in their class - but barely. Most of the Photoshop and video editing benchmarks put the R7-1800X and the i7-6800K at about even with a few points +- margin of error. Even most tests in that area the mid range Intel X99 CPUs (i7-6800K and i7-6850K) are better for that reason. But for overall gaming the 7700K is still the best CPU for that. Games still don't use more than four cores and this is 2017. It will be years and years before the software catches up to the hardware in terms of core utilization. In the $250 range though, I would take an R5-1600X over an i5-7600K right now.
 
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So basically you agree with my point like I said earlier that Ryzen has the best price to performance
 
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Depends on which one. The R5-1600X definitely is the better value over the 7700K. But right now the R7-1800X is not a good value as the CPUs are currently selling for around $450 at most outlets, which is $100 more than the i7-7700K is currently retailing for, at $339.
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT8njwcVhVE&t=424s games doesnt use more than 4 cores..
 
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What???? I just wanted to show that there plenty even older games which utilise more than 4 cores, nothing else. Whatever
 
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I was commenting on the video. I totally get your point though, but that video makes a pretty poor comparison by adding the dual $1750 Xeons. I think a more fair comparison would have been to throw a 6850K in there.
 
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To me the best value is the 1700x It'll game, stream, and record at the same time and if you need to edit the video afterward it'll blow the 7700k out of the water. If all he wanted to do is game on the machine I definitely go with the 7700k just for raw gaming speed but if he's doing all of those things AMD is the way to go right now. Not to mention the fact that with the video card and resolutions he'll be playing in he'll never notice the difference in FPS. Can you really see 120Fps over 100 Fps? As of right now with my 1700x and a GTX 1080 I get 90FPS while recording in ME Andromeda at 1440p on Ultra settings. 2k gaming is GPU bound but the CPU still has some say in what happens.
 
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