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Guys my current i5 4440 bottlenecks my GTX 970 most of the time in games like GTA V,BF1 etc.I am planning to upgrade to Ryzen 5 1600.Will it also bottleneck my GTX 970 in cpu intensive games?I dont see 99% GPU usage in GTA V and many other games. Will the same happen with Ryzen 5 1600?I want to use this Ryzen chip for 3 years.Is it a good choice?Please help.
 
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Well if you can sell of all your parts and get Ryzen then go for it if you are afraid 4790k wont last 3 more years.
Ryzen performance is affected by RAM speed so if you get lowest 2133 mhz you will not get full potential of the CPU.But since you are not using High end video card that wont be much of a issue here.
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Ryzen isn't an upgrade over anything Haswell-based or more recent, except when you need more cores (Pentium and i3 owners would see a boost). You wouldn't get better performance in current games if you left the Ryzen at stock, and overclocking it is still tricky. You'd have better luck replacing the GPU, as it stands.

If, however, you're sure that you're CPU-limited, then Ryzen would be a good choice provided you're ready to spend more on cooling and RAM, track BIOS releases closely and generally babysit your computer: an overclock to 3.8-4.0 GHz would indeed bring a 20% improvement in CPU speed (provided you feed it good RAM) but many games are still far from being optimized for Ryzen leading to artificial slowdowns.
 
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I have mixed feelings since your CPU isn't that old or that bad. The upside of going Ryzen is the two games GTA V and BF1 are multi threaded so the extra 2 cores should have an impact on game play. How much of an impact you will "feel" I'm just not certain as the i5 4440 isn't a very commonly benched CPU. If you do go down this path an you don't plan to overclock then get the 1600x as its only $25 more than the 1600 and you get 400Mgz more speed.
 
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My i5 4440 might not be that bad but i think it will become bad enough in coming years i guess.Wont the Ryzen 1600 prevent that?Or instead of going with Ryzen now,i should wait more for next gen cpus from Intel and amd?
 
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My i5 4440 might not be that bad but i think it will become bad enough in coming years i guess.Wont the Ryzen 1600 prevent that?Or instead of going with Ryzen now,i should wait more for next gen cpus from Intel and amd?
 
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My i5 4440 might not be that bad but i think it will become bad enough in coming years i guess.Wont the Ryzen 1600 prevent that?Or instead of going with Ryzen now,i should wait more for next gen cpus from Intel and amd?And i will use stock cooler for Ryzen with a 3.6-3.7Ghz OC on cpu with 3000mhz ram.
 
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The thing is i only got a budget of 250$ right now.I will be getting 210$ from selling my i5 4440,16gb ram and not so good motherboard.If i dont sell now,the price of my current PC will fall even more for sure as time passes.Besides i barely got a buyer.Trust me i am not the saving money type.So what if i buy Ryzen 1600 and new B350 mobo and 8 GB DDR4 Ram right now and upgrade only my processor in the future to next gen ryzen for better performance in future if needed?AMD said the new processor that come out will be compatible with AM4 socket.Besides i will have to upgrade ram to ddr4 standards and so the motherboard sooner or later.What you say?I just got 1 buyer barely.
 
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The thing is i only got a budget of 250$ right now.I will be getting 210$ from selling my i5 4440,16gb ram and not so good motherboard.If i dont sell now,the price of my current PC will fall even more for sure as time passes.Besides i barely got a buyer.Trust me i am not the saving money type.So what if i buy Ryzen 1600 and new B350 mobo and 8 GB DDR4 Ram right now and upgrade only my processor to next gen ryzen for better performance in future if needed?AMD said the new processor that come out will be compatible with AM4 socket.Besides i will have to upgrade ram to ddr4 standards and so the motherboard sooner or later.What you say?I just got 1 buyer barely.
 
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I'd say up to you , if you have a buyer & the time seems right then the ryzen 1600 is IMO a fairly sizeable upgrade over an has well 4440.

It has around 10% better single core performance at stock , 2 extra physical cores , & 8 extra threads

You could make far worse choices than that.

I will say ram wise , if you can only afford 8gb then stick to a single stick 2666mhz or faster.

 
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I wouldn't do it - not if it entailed a RAM downgrade, which helps more in games than a couple extra cores over a quad would ever do.

Keep your Haswell and RAM, maybe get a beefy SSD with all that cash burning your pocket? That's far more sensible if you're still using a mechanical drive.
 
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I got 1 SSD from Laptop thankfully.I think its time to upgrade.Otherwise i wont even get 210$ from my current PC for sure :(
 
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If your main task is gaming, you can just sell off your i5 or with the money you have you can try to find it 4790 or 4790k, stick in to mobo and you are done.
You will get Ryzen level gaming performance for much less and you can keep the rest of the money for new GPU in the future.
 
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Very good advise but 4th gen processors no longer avalible in my country used or new.
 
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Ebay and Newegg and Amazon dont ship on my location.In my country,used I7 4790K is o 200$ which is nuts.
 
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Actually that is a pretty good price for that CPU, considering that new 7700k cost around 335 to 350$ and 4790k is not far from it in gaming performance.If you current mobo doesnt support overclocking i7 4790 would be much better pick and you wont need after market cooler for it but 4790k will need one to stay cool.
 
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Yeah they sell for about £220 used in the uk, roughly $280 usd

Even without a z series motherboard the 4790k is worthwhile as its 4ghz at stock instead of the 3.6ghz of the 4790. Ive been running my 4790k at stock and have no reason to oc it :D
 
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Yea it is better on stock speeds, but the problem is if he have low end mobo, VRMs will get too hot and it will start to throttle. So he will need to buy some aftermarket cooler that will also provide cooling for VRM's if he wants to get 4790k.
Manually overclocking 4790k to 4,4 Ghz gives much lower temps and power consumption than stock settings.
 
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Sounds reasonable.
 
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