CAD/GAMING Build ($900/PHP 45000)

Judgemongcal

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Good day! I am a student from Philippines and I'm planning to get a PC wherein I can render 3D designs and also play NBA 2k, csgo and some triple A titles. I am planning to study designing houses with Cad so when I take on architecture after 2 years, I'll have a head start.

I was thinking of getting a 6700k but with a low budget, I could only pair it with a 1060 3gb. My other option is getting a 6600k/7600k paired with a 1060 6gb. Any suggestions on what would be a better build?

Potential Build:
Processor: i7-6700k/i5-6600k/i5-7600k
Motherboard: B150m mortar/Gigabyte B250m
Ram: 8gb HyperX ddr4 (will upgrade in the future to 16gb)
HDD: 1TB WD Blue( planning to buy a 120gb ssd with my own money because my parents will provide the PC)
Videocard: Gtx 1060 mini 3gb/6gb
Casing: NZXT S340
PSU: Corsair 600w

Thank you in advance for all of those that will help! I'm only 16 years old and I need help from those who have the knowledge
 
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On Overclocking and using an Overclockable CPU on a non-OCable MB
You'd OC mostly for gaming, not much for productivity works -- but it does help esp. during CPU rendering (faster time).

The point about the CPU + MB pairing is: if you are going for the processors you listed (i.e., i7-6700k/i5-6600k/i5-7600k), you'd be better off at a price/performance standpoint in getting the non-K versions (i7-6700/i5-6600/i5-7600) to pair with the motherboard you were initially considering (i.e., B150m mortar/Gigabyte B250m).

For example, the i7-6700K, non-OC'd works at 4.0GHz (base clock) to 4.20GHz (boost clock) at 91W TDP which sells for $290 (or Php 16,940 in the Philippine website I linked). On the other hand, the i7-6700 works at...
Hi and welcome to Tom's Hardware!

Your initial parts list does have some potential, but allow me to make some changes based on your intended use (now and in the future).

Among the processors that you have listed, the i7 (with 4 cores and 8 threads) would be the most ideal compared to the i5's (with 4 cores and only 4 threads). You want more cores and more threads for rendering 3D designs, such as in Vray or 3DMax. One consideration is to check out the newly-released AMD Ryzen CPUs (which has more cores, more threads, overclockable and for a lower price compared to Intel's) - which is my recommendation in my parts list below.

The motherboard you listed does not support overclocking the Intel i5s and i7 you listed. If you want to stick with Intel's overclockable CPUs (i.e., the "K" series), you should get the Z170/Z270 boards instead to take advantage of the CPUs features (but these cost more than the non-OCable B150/B250 you listed).

RAM for your intended use is better to start off with a 16GB (2 x 8GB) if your budget permits -- especially on AutoCAD and Photoshop.

The GTX 1060 GPU is good for 1080p-resolution gaming (preferably the 6GB version and not the 3GB). Like the CPU, you can also consider the AMD's newly-released RX 580 GPUs instead of the Nvidia's GTX 1060s. The RX 580s would cost about the same or even lesser, but, the RX 580s have 4GB and 8GB versions.

The PSU you listed (at 600W) is a bit of an overkill for the PC you will build. I would suggest a better and ample-wattage PSU below that would be more than enough for your needs.

Here's a suggested build based on your requirements:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($218.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($93.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($102.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 580 8GB Gaming 8G Video Card ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT S340 Elite (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $832.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-24 14:15 EDT-0400

Since you're from the Philippines, here's a suggested website (DynaQuest PC) where you can get the parts listed above:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.5Ghz 6-Core w/ hsf (Php 11,850.00 @ DynaQuest PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte AB350M-GAMING-3 (Php 6,650.00 @ DynaQuest PC)
Memory: GSkill Ripjaws V 16GB Dual DDR4 2400 CL15 (F4-2400C15D-16GVR) (Php 6,320.00 @ DynaQuest PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB WD10EZEX (Php 2,350.00 @ DynaQuest PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte RX 580 8GB Gaming (GV-RX580GAMING-8GD) (Php 12,750.00 @ DynaQuest PC)
Case: NZXT S340 Elite Matte (black, white, black-red) (Php 5,600.00 @ DynaQuest PC)
Power Supply: Seasonic M12II-520 EVO 520w 80Plus Bronze Fully Modular (Php 3,290.00 @ DynaQuest PC)
Total: Php 48,810.00

Hope the above suggested build gives you an idea of what suits your needs. Good luck in your build!

Btw, if you would be getting an SSD in the future, I highly suggest the Samsung 850 EVO. But get the 250GB - not the 120GB. The 250GB is faster and has better price/performance than the 120GB (not to mention double the storage capacity as the 120GB easily fills up).
 

Judgemongcal

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Not to question you or your knowledge but, some articles suggests that overclocking isnt good for productivity and such. Also, is the Ryzen better than the i7 for my case? Is the 4gb version enough?
 
On Overclocking and using an Overclockable CPU on a non-OCable MB
You'd OC mostly for gaming, not much for productivity works -- but it does help esp. during CPU rendering (faster time).

The point about the CPU + MB pairing is: if you are going for the processors you listed (i.e., i7-6700k/i5-6600k/i5-7600k), you'd be better off at a price/performance standpoint in getting the non-K versions (i7-6700/i5-6600/i5-7600) to pair with the motherboard you were initially considering (i.e., B150m mortar/Gigabyte B250m).

For example, the i7-6700K, non-OC'd works at 4.0GHz (base clock) to 4.20GHz (boost clock) at 91W TDP which sells for $290 (or Php 16,940 in the Philippine website I linked). On the other hand, the i7-6700 works at 3.40GHz (base) to 4.0GHz (boost) -- just a mere 200MHz difference from the K-version -- but only at 65W TDP and sells for the same $290 in the US (but only Php 15,300 in the same website in your country). That's a savings of Php 1,640 for almost the same performance in non-OC use, lower heat, lower power consumption, and, not to mention, already has a stock CPU cooler you can use out-of-the-box (unlike the K versions where you NEED to buy an aftermarket CPU cooler as it doesn't come with one -- that's an added cost).

Same goes for the i5-6600K: 3.5GHz to 3.9GHz at 91W and $220 (Php 11,750). But the i5-6600: 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz at 65W and $210 (Php 10,950). Again, same performance at non-OC use, lower heat/power consumption, including stock cooler and Php 800 less.

i5-7600K: 3.8GHz to 4.2GHz, 91W, $230 (Php 12,190); i5-7600: 3.5GHz to 4.1GHz, 65W, $215 (Php 11,200). That's only 100Mhz difference (same performance in non-OC), lower heat/power, stock cooler and Php 990 savings.

So, in short, if you do not intend to OC, you are just wasting money getting a K series CPU and pairing it with a B150/B250 motherboard.

On Ryzen or Intel CPU
The Ryzen 5 1600 I suggested would be definitely more ideal for the PC usage you mentioned (and so is the Intel i7). The i5's (with 4 cores and only 4 threads due to the lack of hyperthreading technology) are mostly geared towards a pure gaming PC, which in your case, it is not.

The 1600 has 6 cores and 12 threads (very useful in your architectural rendering and other workstation usage). The i7-6700K and the i7-6700 (non-K) both has 4 cores and 8 threads (also useful for workstation use). Here's a direct comparison of the Ryzen 5 1600 and the i7-6700K: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3502vs3919 . Take a closer look at the Workstation effective speed as this would be your primary use for your PC. In terms of gaming, the i7 still has the clear advantage in single-core speed, but, the 1600 is not that far behind. Here's another review of the Ryzen 1600/1600X and how it fairs with the Intel counterpart: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-1600x .

On 4GB RX 580
Yes it is, especially if you want to shave off some more costs. The 8GB is only ideal if you want to max. out most games on a 1080p/60Hz monitor. The 4GB still does a slightly equal job, but, it mostly depends on the game and your in-game graphics settings. Consider the 4GB if you want to save Php 1,600 on the GPU compared to the 8GB version. Both are still better than the GTX 1060 3GB.
 
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