Can you boot to BIOS if CPU died?

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Last night my video blinked as it sometimes does saying the driver failed. Normally it immediately comes back saying the video was restarted. This time it did not. I pressed the on/off switch, holding it down until the system stopped. I powered back on, and no video. I turned off the system with the main power on/off switch, removed the video card, plugged in the on board video, turned back on the main power switch, and pressed the on/off switch.

The system failed to boot. It gave a message that I cannot remember, but I hit a key ant the system booted into BIOS. I Set the option to only use on board video,saved the change and restarted.

I then got the messages:



Windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause. To fix the problem:

1. Insert your Windows installation disc and restart the computer.
2. Choose your language settings, and then click "Next."
3. Click "Repair your computer."

If you do not have this disc, contact you system administrator or computer manufacturer for assistance.

Status: 0xc000000f

Info: The boot selection failed because a required device is inaccessible.



I loaded my installation disk into the DVD drive and restarted the computer and get the same messages.

I tried my Blu-ray drive and the same messages.

I tried my Windows 8 and Windows XP disks too.

At this point I am accepting either my motherboard or CPU or both have died. As I have no way of testing get which, I am curious, can I boot that far with a dead CPU?

Any help identifying the source of the problem would be most welcome.
 
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Ask a friend neighbor to lend you a hand, when you download the files, make sure it goes into the download folder.
Plug in a flash drive on a desktop or laptop computer, run the windows 7 usb tool.
Navigate to the download folder and select the iso, everything should work out fine and unless the person tampered with the iso and the tool will say its not legit iso.

Just a note, if none of that still works out, the only other thing I can recommend is a computer shop or geeksquad to do the work for you.
Just tell them directly you want a clean install of your windows 7 pro oem system, ask them to also scan your hard drives for any bad sectors.
If it finds any problems with the drives, you will need to purchase a new hard drive or ssd...
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My boot sequence does specify boot from DVD drive firsr. Sorry, I forgot to mention that I changed that.

NEW INFORMATION:

I went in and changed some of the waits during startup. I can see the logo screen now and right after it some lines that go by too fast for me to really read, but the top line is the BIOS version (sorry to fast to read the numbers), the 2nd line says something about 5.0 GPS, I think the third lie says something about ACPI, and the last two mention first my DVD drive then my C drive a 500GB Samsung Evo ssd. Unfortunately, I really cannot read more. My main monitor is display port and my motherboard onboard video is HDMI, DVI, or VGAL so running through my television and the system is not native mode at the resolutions and a message is covering part.

I accidentally pressed continue and with the Windows 7 Pro disc tries to start, but stops right after is starts the swirling red, green yellow blue under the word Windows. It gets 3 of the dots.

I can boot into Ubuntu and it appears to work ok running off the installation disk. I have not tried to install Ubuntu to moving around my disk drives they look like the files are still present.

When I try to boot from my repair disk, it stops immediately after the word windows first is appearing. Then after a bit I get the blue screen of death. 0xoooooo9c (0x0000000000000004,0xfffff88000c7c30,0x00000000fe000000,0x0000000000800400).
 
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Do you think I should just install Ubuntu and hope that I will be able to then reinstall Windows 7 Pro or Windows 7 Ultimate? I have both, Ultimate from MS download and 7/8 disks came as oem versions with the system.
 
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Natalie give me your system specs so I know what I'm dealing with ?
Is your computer custom built or retail computer, like dell, hp/compaq, acer, gateway ?
What cpu and video card do you have, what type of hard drive do you use, read the label and bring back the model number.
 
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It started as a Microcenter Powerspec G400, but was HEAVILY modified before it left the store and currently only the case, CPU, and motherboard in it from the initial purchase.

Asrock z87 Extreme 3 motherboard
32 Gb Memory
36TB (total hhd) storage 2x6TB dynamic Drive & 4x 4TB StarTeam docking station + assorted smaller drives
C drive Samsung 500GB 850 Evo
G drive 120GB Toshiba (???) sad used for pagefile
DVD read only drive
Blu-ray BE
EVGA 980Ti, now onward Video, I think Intel
Hauppauge 4 channel tuner
8 port SATA 3 in controller besides onboard

WINDOWS 7 Pro 64 bit oem Current on patches
NVIDIA most patches, not all as it would not let extend onions with most recent patch.
VMWARE 12.xx
7 zip
Dungeon and Dragons Online
Name forgotten Comics reader
Open Office
ADOBE freeware
Firefox

sorry I can not remember most of the rest except most were emulators long since used or updated.
 
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Alright for the main drive that has your windows 7 os, leave it plugged in, unattach the rest of the drives for the time being.
Boot the computer and tell me what it does, I checked your bsod codes and it seems like your os is missing some system files and corrupted.
You might need to do a fresh clean install of windows 7.
https://downloads.jmay.us/Downloads/Windows7Prox64.aspx

http://filehippo.com/download_windows_usb_dvd_download_tool/download/99ec5b31ae3ded4849cfd7b2713b060a/
Use this tool with a good 4gb or 8gb flash drive, sandisk and kingston flash drives do best for doing usb os installs.
 
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I got the same result except the bsod values changed.

F0x0000009c (0x0000000000000004, 0xfffff8800396cc30, 0x00000000be000000, 0x0000000000800400)

I will have to wait for the library to open to get the files you suggested. I have been posting tests and results using a tablet. I do not know how to download to a file I can move off onto another device.
 
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Ask a friend neighbor to lend you a hand, when you download the files, make sure it goes into the download folder.
Plug in a flash drive on a desktop or laptop computer, run the windows 7 usb tool.
Navigate to the download folder and select the iso, everything should work out fine and unless the person tampered with the iso and the tool will say its not legit iso.

Just a note, if none of that still works out, the only other thing I can recommend is a computer shop or geeksquad to do the work for you.
Just tell them directly you want a clean install of your windows 7 pro oem system, ask them to also scan your hard drives for any bad sectors.
If it finds any problems with the drives, you will need to purchase a new hard drive or ssd.
Make sure you verify the job is done correctly before you give them your money and walk out of the shop.
 
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Thank you for all the help.

I now suspect that my system is overheating.

I only used the turbo setting when I first got the system 4 years ago to see what it could do then reset bios and verified all turbo settings were turned off. After retiring, I could no longer support frequently replacing my system components because I burned them up.

The system sat for several hours and booted without problem. I used it for a while and shut it down then restarted. It failed again at, visually, the about the same place (the swirling red, yellow, blue, green of the Windows logo during startup). It kept failing. I let it sit for 11 hours and it started up with no problem.

I have an old version of CPU-IDs hardware monitor. I am watching temperatures. So far I have been running for over an hour and the temperatures on all cores are good. The reading are current/max 38/48, 37/48, 35/50, and 41/49 degrees C with the package values of 41/51.

I have run a disk analysis on all but 3 disks now. My C:, D:, and Q: drives. They are system drives and scheduled for disk analysis with my next boot.

I am not sure why I cannot read ANY of my Windows installation disks nor my repair disk (I think those are install specific). I will be purchasing another Samsung 500GB EVO 850 and mirroring my C: and then disconnecting the drive. It will give a backup, unlike my current disk images that require I be able to use a repair disk.

I am also going to be purchasing another full version of Windows 7 Pro, not an OEM like came with my system. I have never been able to update my BIOS because OEM license is tied to the BIOS.
 
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Just back up any files you want from the c drive, then you go ahead and format them and wipe them out clean.
For the ssd plug it up only during the windows 7 installation, once its done use another ssd/better hdd for storing your files.
That would be a better way to keep things managed much better and not having 4 storage devices trying to do all that work.
http://www.easeus.com/download/epmf-download.html

This should be easy enough for you to use, use it to format the other drive and use it for secondary logical partition and resize the drive accordingly.
 
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