Server or Consumer Grade Components for a 24/7 Minecraft Server

BuckyJunior

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Hello my fellow techies! So, I have an FX-4300 on a MSI G46-970A motherboard, and it has become obsolete for my uses. My idea was that I could replace the FX-4300 with an Opteron 3380 (Socket AM3+), but they seem to be very expensive and rare compared to the cheaper and better 6000 series Opterons (Socket G34). I have realized my motherboard does not support ECC RAM though. Basically, should I go with an Opteron CPU with a high number of cores and run multiple servers on one chip, or go with an Intel chip for more power on fewer servers? Also, are server grade components really that important? It seems as they are, because a player could lose their data without ECC RAM if there is a slight error.
 
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I'd recommend you to wait a bit before buying your processor. The process will mature with time, and you'll get better temperatures/overclocking. I'd recommend you to buy your processor whenever you buy the other parts. Also, if you care about overclocking, get the X variant. They're usually better at overclocking (lower temperatures, lower voltages, higher clocks).

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You have somebody that is unhappy. But, IMO, if there this is non-commercial, ECC doesn't matter. There are more likely scenarios that data is lost than a stuck bit in a DIMM. You will probably only have 2 or 4 DIMMs. It isn't like a server with hundreds of DIMMs.
 

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Well, here's the thing, I will have a lot of DIMMS. Much more than 2 or 4. probably more than 6 or whatever the maximum I can afford. (Most likely at least 8 DIMMS) I'm just trying to avoid somebody being unhappy.
 

BuckyJunior

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My current system does not support PCIe 2.0, my motherboard is garbage, as the VRM is very weak and will not withstand high temps. If I threw in an FX-8370, I have heard the board acts strangely and can barely handle it. I have a GTX 960, which I would reuse, but Vega is coming out soon, so I will probably upgrade to that if it is any good. If Vega isn't competitive, I'll go for a 1080 Ti. My HDD is also failing at the moment. It's a SATA III 750GB 7200RPM drive. I'm not going to replace the drive until I get a new case, as this case does not have any intake fans (Xigmatek's fault for not sending them as advertised). My RAM is also only 8GB @ 1600MHz. Overall, I just built this system as a budget machine at the time, and I am now ready to get into the enthusiast area of computing.
 
Ahh, I see. Because for a simple minecraft server, the motherboard and CPU you have should be fine.
You could definitely use more RAM, as that's what minecraft cares about, and you need to fix the HDD regardless.
VRM cooling can be alleviated by getting a better aftermarket top down cooler. (AMDs stock coolers of that gen were just terrible)
And either getting a new case with better cooling or just adding case fans to the case you already have.

If you want a new system for gaming though, you do need to start entirely fresh.
 

BuckyJunior

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Yeah, I'm going to be building a system based on an XPOWER X370 Titanium motherboard and an 1800X. I originally wanted to use an Opteron 3380, but now I stated above that my motherboard does not support ECC RAM (but is ECC RAM really that important?). I would also be willing to throw an AIO cooler in this machine. I'm planning on running at least 5 servers. I have successfully run 4 fully functional servers with 4 of my friends on each one with my current specs.
 
If a player loses their minecraft data, it doesn't cost them the 100s of thousands that companies who need ECC ram stand to lose.

ECC ram is also painfully slow.

You should probably read up on some motherboard and processor reviews so your decisions are a little more informed if you want to go down the Ryzen route.
 

BuckyJunior

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Yeah, you're right about the he fact that if a player loses their data, it won't be THAT bad. I've done pretty good amount of research on Ryzen, and it seems to be a platform that is still under utilized, just like Bulldozer/Piledriver was, but now it seems as if developers might start using it more efficiently.

So, let's so I do use my current motherboard for the server, but I have come to realize that the Opteron 3380 seems to be very rare and overpriced compared to the better Opteron 6300 series.

As for my planned Ryzen system, here are the specs.

CPU: Ryzen 7 1800X
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Primo
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X62
MB: MSI X370 XPOWER TITANIUM
GPU: GTX 1080 Ti
RAM: 32GB TridentZ @3200MHz (2x16GB)
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G2
HDD: Seagate FireCuda Gaming SSHD 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
 

BuckyJunior

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Actually the Ryzen build is just a replacement for my old PC. I do agree with the fact that the 1700 would do fine, but just to be sure, I'm going to spend the extra money. That build was completely separate from the server I was talking about and is a completely separate project. For the server, I either want to use an Opteron 3380 in my existing AM3+ board, or I would like to upgrade to an Opteron 63xx/Xeon platform. Do you have any server CPU suggestions? Minecraft wiki shows the following requirements (GHz aren't really valid performance indications anymore) http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Server/Requirements/Server

I will also have plenty of plugins.
 

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I'd recommend you to wait a bit before buying your processor. The process will mature with time, and you'll get better temperatures/overclocking. I'd recommend you to buy your processor whenever you buy the other parts. Also, if you care about overclocking, get the X variant. They're usually better at overclocking (lower temperatures, lower voltages, higher clocks).
 
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