Concerned about graphics card, doesnt run as it should

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Hello,

I had some questions about my pc build and how it could be affecting gaming performance.

First of i had to rebuild recently because i had a nasty power surge in my last pc. The guy who i bought it from basically put an outdated ,insufficient power supply on it and he did not even bother to tell me that the framework around the cpu was broken, so he just put on the cooling fan without locking it to the frame. Awesome build ruined by stupid mistakes, and my own nonchalance. This lead to most of my hardware being fried and i had to replace the mobo and cpu, even now my wifi adapter and screen seem to be affected negeatively.

The Specs of that pc where :

Graphics card : Sapphire HD 7800 series
Cpu : Amd Phenom II x2 560
mobo : Corshair III Formula
8gig ram

With this build i could run Battlefield 1 on high settings with ease.

From the items listed above only the Mobo is different. i have purchased a new cpu of the same type and i could salvage the graphics card. My current mobo is : 970 Pro gaming Aura. I have also added a new ram chip of the same type so now my system has 16gig.

With basically being the same build if not slightly improved, i get poorer performance.
Games that would run fine before now have trouble rendering or generating frames.
I am aware that it is not the most high end setting so not all games run as smooth, but i believe it is moderately decent material that could run new games.

I am thinking that it is perhaps the Graphics card that is affected somehow.

 
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Replacing the GPU would probably be a good place to start; if you don't want to go buy one right off, you could see if any of your friends have one you can borrow. Since you swapped out the mobo, it probably won't be the slot.
 
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so your guess is the gpu is damaged? because if its still working fine and the problem is something different i would not replace it at this moment, in its working state with the build i had before i could achieve decent performance soo.
 
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No that PC will not run BF1 on high if at all.

Weak GPU and Very Weak CPU. You would need a i5 (not mobile *U model) or higher and a GPU with 4 GB vram.

You need 4 GB of vram if you plan on playing online. On the conquest maps with 64 player I use around 3.8 GB of VRAM and 7.5 GB ram and 100% of the CPU (i5 @ 4.2). On 1920x1080 ultra. Lower res will not change the CPU usage much at all, it would reduce the VRAM needed.

You may have damaged the GPU also.
 
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If it worked well before and just another motherboard with an equal CPU was replaced, it should be a driver thing/windows not working correctly or temperature problem after reinstalling the cooler.

Did you reapply thermal paste before installing the new CPU?
 
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See dude i played it and i know it worked im not lying, there is no reason for me to lie about it.

I did not start this discussion to debate if intel is better then Amd. i know it worked and thats all the confirmation i need.
 
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He didn't say anything about Intel vs. AMD except to provide an example using his own CPU, which happens to be an Intel i5. I have an AMD FX8370, 8 cores at 4.0 GHz per core, and it runs games of BF1's quality (I don't have BF1 itself :() beautifully.
 
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Playing BF1 single player takes less CPU and unless your GPU is a 7850 2 GB, the only part of your PC that meets the min specs for BF1 would be ram. A lot of people that meet the min specs or close could get the single player to play, but the online play was not enjoyable.

But like I said on the last sentence "You may have damaged the GPU also."

You can try options that others have listed. Since you have a new mobo you may need to make sure the gpu drivers are removed and reinstalled.

Remove GPU drivers
Remove Motherboard Drivers

Reinstall in reverse order.
 
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Again, there is no reason to make up stuff, i have about 80 hours of bf1 play on record and in that period i played on high settings, online and it ran very smooth. So there is no reason for me to accept any of your advice if i know for a fact that what you say is just not accurate.

 
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Yes i made sure that cpu and mobo are set as it should. It could possibly be a driver thing since i had to install everything from usb because the disc drive is also broken, so i could not install mobo drivers from the disc and had to abort that process

 
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Either your definition of "smooth" is way off or you've posted the wrong computer specs. We're not making anything up. It is a hard fact that the components you posted are below the minimum specifications given by the game's producer. It is also a hard fact that your computer may very well be able to run it even so, but with those parts in your computer you are guaranteed to be mistaken either about it running smooth or you running it on high settings.

You asked for help because you don't know what's wrong or how to fix it. You have been given suggestions. You are telling those people that they are wrong without even bothering to try anything. Please stop insisting people are lying and/or making things up.
 
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Maybe not as much as lying as just not knowing what your are talking about? Explain to me then why i am playing Warhammer total war on full ultra in multiplayer without any lag or drop in framerates? or am i mistakenly seeing it as ultra settings while they are on low??? My system is fine to run those games im just trying to look for answers to where it should be tweaked or fixed up a bit, because i have played it all before perfectly with the same hardware you deem inferiour. has it crossed your mind that you might not be a computer specialist afterall but just a hardware elitist?
 
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Has it crossed your mind that you're being a bit of a jerk to the people who are volunteering their time to help you? I'm relatively new here, but I've been working with computers since the late 90's. What we're doing is looking at the GPU and CPU you posted, checking the GPU's clock speed and onboard VRAM as well as the CPU's clock speed and buffer cache, and comparing that to what DICE lists as the absolute minimum they say will run BF1. Your GPU and CPU fall short of what DICE's minimum specification is. That's not made up, that's not misinformed, that's not opinion. That's cold hard fact, based on cold hard numbers. No amount of you claiming we're idiots will change that.

What I personally have not done, by the way, is actually said that it won't work, since I know full well that it's possible to run games on less than minimum spec; I spent six years gaming on a non-gaming laptop. I have simply been pointing out to you that telling the people who are being nice and trying to help that they're lying and/or stupid is rude, disrespectful, and a great way to earn yourself no help in the future.
 
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