New gaming/video editing build 1000-1300 build

bck000

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Approximate Purchase Date: by mid May, unless refresh cycle is coming up, then I can be patient and wait.

Budget Range: $1,000-$1,000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming and video editing

Are you buying a monitor: Not at this point, going to use old monitors and request new for Christmas.

Do you need to buy OS: No

Location: Indiana, United states

Overclocking: prefer not to but can if need be

SLI or Crossfire: not right now

Your Monitor Resolution: I think 1440

Looking to use Garmin editing software and videopad editing software. While also playing iracing, Rome total war 2, and other older titles.

I have created a i7 1770k build and a ryzen 7 1700 that are almost identical. However, I am positive I can get the price down and get better hardware, or at least keep the price the same with better stuff. Also not sure which build would be better for my needs, the i7 or amd

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9YKDNN
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9YKDNN/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($338.34 @ OutletPC)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED 66.3 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Amazon)

Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($11.89 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($121.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: Patriot Viper Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($97.99 @ Amazon)

Storage: PNY CS1111 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)

Case: Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.89 @ OutletPC)

Optical Drive: LG WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($50.99 @ Amazon)

Total: $1246.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 

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I would go for a Ryzen build. If you are going to use Garmin overlays etc on videos. I heard it takes a long time to render that stuff. Ryzen is faster than Intel consumer offerings in rendering.
And if you go with Ryzen, get 3200 Mhz memory that is verified to work at that speed.

About that case, those LED fans are usually cheap and rattle the whole case. I would look at replacing them instantly. Some cheap 10ish dollar fans like Scythe or similar, below 25 dbA fans. 50+ CFM, small middle area so they push more air.

I assume you have an old harddisk drive that you save your videos on. If not, get one. 2 terabytes is cheap, around 60 bucks.
 

bck000

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I have been looking at the bench marks for both chips and am still torn. I built my computer 10 years ago and still read how more cores are better but "are not fully utilized by programs, just wait they will be." So are 8 cores really worth It?

I just grabbed a random case so if there is something better around that price I'm open to it. Same with the logo.

I have 4 hdd' s. 2 are 52k rpm the other 2 are 70k rpm. Was thinking of only transferring the 70k ones over. However all 4 are over 6 years old.
 
for video editing, Ryzen 7 just blows intel away right now.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($316.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock X370 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard ($198.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU800 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($138.25 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.88 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card ($339.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill STEALTH ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $1348.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Insomniac Jack

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The benchmarks you're referring to are more gaming oriented. Most games these days won't utilize more than 4 cores. Every video editing program I'm aware of will utilize all cores that are available to it plus all of the threads. This is why Ryzen is better for video editing. An Intel I7-7700k has 4 cores and 8 threads while Ryzen has 8 cores and 16 threads that your video editing program will fully utilize. Now if you wanted to make a strictly gaming PC we'd recommend Intel every time as they are still the leader in that area.
 

mamasan2000

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You mean you have a 5400 rpm and 7200 rpm harddisks. 6 years old is nothing, I'm still using 2 drives from 2006!
The reason I mentioned HDDs is, that SSD will fill up fast when you work with videofiles. You need secondary storage. Doesn't really matter how fast it is. Size does.
Every benchmark I've seen comparing Intel i7 and Ryzen 1700, you are saving minutes on rendering videos.
On hour long renders, it's 10 minutes.
 

bck000

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Thank you everyone for the sugestions. I found a ryzen 1700 for $289 so I bought it. Then I found a 1080 for $440 so I spent the extra money and got it. This is the build I settled on, blowing my budget but that's ok. I still need 2 monitors, I found a few between $90-120 any suggestions on them, need 22-24in?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/bck000/saved/VMWTWZ

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XkRknn
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XkRknn/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($316.88 @ OutletPC)

Motherboard: Asus PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($149.49 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($134.49 @ Amazon)

Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($146.98 @ Directron)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card ($499.99 @ B&H)

Case: Thermaltake Suppressor F31 ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ Amazon)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)

Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1459.69

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Insomniac Jack

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Don't forget a CPU cooler.
 

bck000

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The 1700 comes with one. I've pushed my budget to the max. So I'm using the stock one for now and plan on asking for a better one for Christmas. From what I have been reading I could oc the 1700 to 3.5ghz while not taxing the stock cooler much.