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LucoTF
Front panel headers, oh joy :)

Check your motherboard manual for the right order.

The little arrow on the header cable is always for positive

In a pinch you could just plug in the power one and leave the rest, you'd just have no power LED, hard drive activity led, or reset button
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LucoTF

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Looks good, couple of tweaks:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($93.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate FireCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($77.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 580 8GB Gaming 8G Video Card ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair Air 240 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.98 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1008.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Hey.

What made you drop the CPU cooler and switch the motherboard? I chose the initial mobo because of it's WiFi ability.

And is the jump from 7400 to 7500 worth the extra cost, in terms of the bigger picture?

The switch to the RX 580 is interesting...Is it signficantly better in terms of performance? I've just never used AMD so instictively I chose nVidia.
 
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The stock cooler that comes with the i5 is sufficient.

You can stick with a wifi board or buy a pcie wifi card, its your call

If getting a 1060 get a 6gb model. The rx 580 gives similar performance in dx11 titles and superior performance in dx12, but if you favor nvidia the 6gb 1060 is still a great choice
 
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Done.

From the initial build I changed the following;

i7400 to i7500
Fan to no fan
Firecuda 1TB to WD Caviar Blue 1TB
MSI GeForce GTX 1060 3GB to Sapphire Radeon RX 480 4G NITRO +

And since they didn't have the MSI B250I in stock I had to change to the MSI H270i which is practically identical.

All seems well? No compatibility issues here?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T2NCVY

I looked into the Ryzen 5 and it requires changes for the motherboard...
 
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You can do a ryzen 1600+RX 580 build for the same budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($217.55 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($93.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.78 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 580 4GB AORUS 4G Video Card ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair Air 240 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($86.88 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $991.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-29 12:56 EDT-0400
 
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Lucky_SLS - was keeping it below $1000 but seeing as his original was over that I agree.

So

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($217.55 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($93.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($93.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.78 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 580 4GB AORUS 4G Video Card ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair Air 240 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($86.88 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1024.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-29 13:08 EDT-0400
 
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Wireless adapter hmm... Are they as good as built in Wi-Fi cards? Because I can simply use a USB network adapter. It's just important to have good wifi receivement for me because of my position in the house.

 
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The gigabyte one I listed is probably THE best add-on card there is which is why I picked it.

Going for a mitx board just for the built in WiFi is nuts unless you're actually building in an mitx case.
You pay a huge premium for a low expandability , harder to build option.
The inbuilt wifi is generally worse than an add-on card & if it breaks you need a whole board replacement.

+ the fact is that while at the moment the ryzen 1600 merely matches the i5 7500 for gaming across the board , a year or 2 down the line it's just going to plain crucify it - the ryzen is a far far better CPU than any locked i5 IMO.
 
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I see.

So the build you've posted significantly outperforms my initial build and is more "future proof" while more or less costing the same? Interesting.

The reason for the built in WiFi was simply out of convenience... I wasn't sure how to attach those adapters but it's probably an easy task.
 
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No it doesn't outperform the intel build and no it doesn't cost the same, there is a premium for going to ryzen. Parts beyond cpu / mobo / ram were changed to keep the overall spend comparable.

It is arguably more future proof, but i have never been one to hang my hat on speculation and until we start to see real world optimisation for ryzen, intel will still be better.
 
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There is a very real possibility that future ryzen optimisation will push the ryzen 5 ahead of the i5 for gaming. Ryzen is bleeding edge tech right now, its brand new. These things will take time.

Right now you would get very similar, fantastic performance with either.
 
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Intel better ?? Yes under certain circumstances definitely .

Those circumstances are heavily overclocked k series chips with the intent to push 100htz+ screens.

That's something you're probably not going to get with this generation of ryzen.

Below 100fps - doesn't matter a jot, the ryzen 1600 & i5 7500 are within 5 fps of each other across the board.

Future proofing ?? Absolute certainty , when you see an i5 screaming along at 100% usage in bf1 multiplayer while the ryzen is sitting at 50-60% giving out identical fps then proof is absolute.

Ryzen socket lifetime - 4 years minimum
Socket 1151 - another 12 months give or take.

I honestly don't see a singular reason to go with any current locked i5 CPU now.
 
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Absolutely mate ,the 1600 with the spire cooler - the 1600x is a fairly nonsensical buy for the performance edge it gives & it also doesnt come with a cooler at all.

 
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