Upgrading to FX 8350 or 9590

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I posted this on another thread by mistake so here I go again.
I am trying to decide on upgrading my rig from an AMD FX 4100 to either the AMD FX 8350 or FX 9590. I understand the AMD Ryzen 1600 is much better but I am a senior citizen on a fixed budget. I have a Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 mobo, AMD FX 4100 cpu, 16 gig Kingston DDR3 PC3-10700 (2x8), Nvidia 660ti graphics card, 850 watt ps, 128 gig Samsung Pro SSD, 4tb and 3tb internal and 3tb external HD. Upgrading to the Zen would require a new mobo, cpu, and ram. My system works ok for what I use it for, Internet (95Mbs), streaming, and World of Tanks, and War Thunder. I can get the FX 8350 for around a little over $110 new and around $144 new for the 9590 plus it would only take a couple of minutes to install. Those prices should continue to drop with the AMD Ryzen on the market. Will I see a nice improvement with either of those CPUs? Thanks and I hope I posted this in the right spot.
 
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If your board is a ga990FXa UD3 rev4.0, FX 9590 is supported.

There are different revsions to each AMD board. 990FX boards are designed for overclocking.

FX 9590 is not officially supported because your board VRMs would overheat from its massive 220W power draw. That being said even overclocking might be tough.
You might be not able to OC with a FX 9590. But in practice it will run fine at stock 5 GHz.

However your best bet now is to ziptie four fans near your AIO water block, one to cool the Northbridge below the CPU, one to cool the VRMs, one to cool the chokes and one for the RAM.

This may make your board rock stable with the FX 9590 at stock or OC 5.0 GHz on all cores @1.525V

As you have a water cooler get the FX 9590 and...
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The FX-8350 is the more sensible choice. It can be overclocked to the FX-9590 clockspeed with the addition of a better cooler. Besides, the FX-9590 doesn't come with a cooler. You'd have to add that to your cost. A good cooler.
The FX-8350 comes with the stock AMD cooler that is satisfactory if you don't OC. Plus, the FX-8350 goes on sale sometimes for ~$100. I just saw that sale end at newegg a few days ago.
 
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The 9590 is best avoided, it requires a large expensive cooler and even at stock clocks they can require tweaking to get stable(if you can get it stable). You'll see a small bump in performance with the 8350 but for what you are using the system for(non multi thread heavy tasks) imho it wouldn't be worth the cost. Save your money till you can upgrade the platform to one with better single threaded performance.
 
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It depends on what revision the OP has. The later rev.s of that board have the FX-9590 in the CPU support list. And I had my FX-8350 at the same clock speed as the FX-9590 when I had that board. (I still have it at that clock speed with my Asrock, btw)
 
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Thank you. That makes a big difference. I emailed Gigabyte tech support before I posted and asked them about it but they haven't replied yet.
 
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Thank you everyone for convincing me to get the AMD FX-8350. Now I just have to wait a week or so to see if I can pick up a good deal like the under $100 like Clutchc mentioned. Is paying $20 extra for the Wraith Cooler worth it? I do plan on trying to overclock it to 5.0 or a little more. I do have the CORSAIR Hydro Series H60 water cooler.
 
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The FX-8350 comes with a similar cooler itself. And if you have a H60 and want to OC, you won't want to use either AMD cooler. OC'ing that 125W (stock) chip demands an after-market cooler.
Good luck getting 5GHz. My FX-8350 is maxed out at 4.7 if I want it to be stable.
 
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If your board is a ga990FXa UD3 rev4.0, FX 9590 is supported.

There are different revsions to each AMD board. 990FX boards are designed for overclocking.

FX 9590 is not officially supported because your board VRMs would overheat from its massive 220W power draw. That being said even overclocking might be tough.
You might be not able to OC with a FX 9590. But in practice it will run fine at stock 5 GHz.

However your best bet now is to ziptie four fans near your AIO water block, one to cool the Northbridge below the CPU, one to cool the VRMs, one to cool the chokes and one for the RAM.

This may make your board rock stable with the FX 9590 at stock or OC 5.0 GHz on all cores @1.525V

As you have a water cooler get the FX 9590 and underclock to 4.8+undervolt. It will do better clocks than the FX 8350 at the same voltage, at the ballpark of 4.7-4.8 GHz @~1.4V, consuming the same power as FX 8350 125W. The FX 8350 at 1.4V will at most do only 4.5-4.6 GHz

FX 9590 is a better binned CPU compared to the one year older FX 8350. As you have a liquid cooler, you can run this chip at stock. Your worry should be cooling the board.

Hey I am also using a 990FX UD3!
 
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I grabbed z170 with DDR3 feature. the z170 very cheap now .. below USD99. Then you can keep your memory. Any Intel processor better than FX AMD. check the benchmark in web.
 
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