- Apr 29, 2017
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First off, I know you get this here a lot, and I know a lot of you might be sick of seeing these questions (I for one am getting exhausted from looking them all up!), but my situation is specific, I've exhausted every possible option, and want your thoughts on the situation before I bite the bullet and spend another 500 bucks on one.
So, with that said, allow me to explain the situation. The context is a bit lengthy (it has spanned the past several days), but I feel that it would help to know what happened before you can really say for sure. I'd rather give more info, than too less. I know exactly what happened here, I can say that much for sure. I upgraded to a rig that would support a 4K display; my choice was the new AMD Ryzen 7 1800x - it is perfect for what I do (multimedia design, animation). The motherboard I chose was the Gigabyte Aorus GA-AX370. URL below of the mobo for convenience.
Link to Motherboard
I'll also attach my full build, or, well, the relevant parts - I'll leave out my extra fans, but it will show all other parts, basically (build might look a little overkill for a 480, but I like it, and it will get the job done for what I need at the moment). It is below.
And link to full Build
I had a friend help me with this, since that's usually how we do things. So, got all this in, got the mobo, cpu, and ram setup - then put it all in my case. And then added my inside fans, radiator, and power supply - and all my drives, of course. I left my side panel open for my initial testing, and left the, this is important, side fans off for the initial tests. I turned on the PC, everything ran perfectly, got Windows setup, transferred files from my old drives, and then shut the PC off to remove my old OS drive from the docking bay, and put it in with the other drives.
Now this, is where the problem happens. I am usually pretty trusting of my friend, so I let her put on my side panel, and plug in the side fans. After we got the side panel on, though, and I started the PC, I smelt a burning smell - it was fast, it started mere seconds after starting the comp. So I very quickly shut it off, the issue was, though, I couldn't. I tried shutting the computer off, and everything shut down (monitors, keyboard, mouse, everything), except all the fans were still running, as well all LEDs on my fans, ram, and on my motherboard. And I could NOT get it to shut off, at all - no matter what I did. I tried pressing the computer off switch several times, no dice; I then had to go to my motherboard itself, since it has an off/on switch installed on it. Still nothing. So I was forced to flip the switch on my PSU.
I then went to see what the heck was going on now. After getting the panel off, I saw the culprit: my friend had, evidently, plugged my LED pin on my side fans, into... the temperature sensor on my motherboard - not the LED pins. I take it she saw the two pins, and the temp sensor is right above the fan area, and figured that was it. I mean it makes sense; they were right by the fans themselves. The real LED was, however, on the far left, away from the fans entirely. I know that I smelled a burnt smell, which brought me straight to thinking my PSU fried. Just to be sure, though, I went and plugged the LEDs into the right slot, and tried to turn it on - nothing at all. Thinking it had to have been the PSU at this point, I swapped out the PSU with an older one (CX750). That didn't do the trick either; same thing - nothing.
That left me confused, as the smell really made me think PSU. So, I tried to think of what it *could* be, and the next logical thing was my motherboard. The bad thing is that I couldn't test it with my friend, as she does not have an AM4 socket board or processor - and, well, we live in a very rural area, and there is no one in the area that does. So I went to Google, and found a lot of threads on this before (not the exact same situation, but for people who believed their mobo was fried). I tried *everything* to try to see if it was my mobo - even installing things from the start, checking if wires were in right, you name it. Followed the threads, and that mega thread on troubleshooting. But the fact of the matter is that nothing changed between that point and when it was working. So after exhausting every choice, we came to the conclusion that it was the mobo. So I went and re-bought it, got it in the next day. Another $210 to fix a silly mistake, oh well, we all make mistakes, and my friend even offered to pay for it. Problem solved, right? Well, not so much.
So we get the new mobo, take everything off the old one, then put everything on the new one, and then put it in the case. Only issue was: it didn't start. I figured that we just missed something, it happens; so I look through it, see nothing not connected. Look through it again, make sure everything is in place, still nothing. I then, just to be sure, put in a different power supply again, still nothing (worth noting my fan test on my PSU worked - so it really just can't be it). Now I followed everything, the whole troubleshooting thread that is on this site - nothing. So the only thing I can think of that would prevent the system from even starting for a second is the CPU. I've made a few rigs before, and I know how rare it is for a CPU to even fry from a motherboard frying, but I tried everything I can think of, I followed the troubleshooting thread to a key about 20 times, and read all my manuals chronically. I even took out the CPU, examined it, and sit it back in. All I know is that currently, the culprit is *not* my mobo, since it is a fresh one, hasn't even turned on yet. Unless the new one I got was defected...
So, before I buy a new CPU, what do you all think, now that you have the same context that I have? Do you think it's the CPU that fried along with the motherboard as well? Does this even sound like something that would cause a CPU to die? What are the odds of that happening? That just seems like such an odd thing to happen, as mobos usually protect components from this kind of thing. I'd just like any extra opinions before I buy a new CPU - it just seems so unlikely. I'd appreciate it, thank you if you made it this far; a lot of typing, but I feel context is important for this kind of thing.
So, with that said, allow me to explain the situation. The context is a bit lengthy (it has spanned the past several days), but I feel that it would help to know what happened before you can really say for sure. I'd rather give more info, than too less. I know exactly what happened here, I can say that much for sure. I upgraded to a rig that would support a 4K display; my choice was the new AMD Ryzen 7 1800x - it is perfect for what I do (multimedia design, animation). The motherboard I chose was the Gigabyte Aorus GA-AX370. URL below of the mobo for convenience.
Link to Motherboard
I'll also attach my full build, or, well, the relevant parts - I'll leave out my extra fans, but it will show all other parts, basically (build might look a little overkill for a 480, but I like it, and it will get the job done for what I need at the moment). It is below.
And link to full Build
I had a friend help me with this, since that's usually how we do things. So, got all this in, got the mobo, cpu, and ram setup - then put it all in my case. And then added my inside fans, radiator, and power supply - and all my drives, of course. I left my side panel open for my initial testing, and left the, this is important, side fans off for the initial tests. I turned on the PC, everything ran perfectly, got Windows setup, transferred files from my old drives, and then shut the PC off to remove my old OS drive from the docking bay, and put it in with the other drives.
Now this, is where the problem happens. I am usually pretty trusting of my friend, so I let her put on my side panel, and plug in the side fans. After we got the side panel on, though, and I started the PC, I smelt a burning smell - it was fast, it started mere seconds after starting the comp. So I very quickly shut it off, the issue was, though, I couldn't. I tried shutting the computer off, and everything shut down (monitors, keyboard, mouse, everything), except all the fans were still running, as well all LEDs on my fans, ram, and on my motherboard. And I could NOT get it to shut off, at all - no matter what I did. I tried pressing the computer off switch several times, no dice; I then had to go to my motherboard itself, since it has an off/on switch installed on it. Still nothing. So I was forced to flip the switch on my PSU.
I then went to see what the heck was going on now. After getting the panel off, I saw the culprit: my friend had, evidently, plugged my LED pin on my side fans, into... the temperature sensor on my motherboard - not the LED pins. I take it she saw the two pins, and the temp sensor is right above the fan area, and figured that was it. I mean it makes sense; they were right by the fans themselves. The real LED was, however, on the far left, away from the fans entirely. I know that I smelled a burnt smell, which brought me straight to thinking my PSU fried. Just to be sure, though, I went and plugged the LEDs into the right slot, and tried to turn it on - nothing at all. Thinking it had to have been the PSU at this point, I swapped out the PSU with an older one (CX750). That didn't do the trick either; same thing - nothing.
That left me confused, as the smell really made me think PSU. So, I tried to think of what it *could* be, and the next logical thing was my motherboard. The bad thing is that I couldn't test it with my friend, as she does not have an AM4 socket board or processor - and, well, we live in a very rural area, and there is no one in the area that does. So I went to Google, and found a lot of threads on this before (not the exact same situation, but for people who believed their mobo was fried). I tried *everything* to try to see if it was my mobo - even installing things from the start, checking if wires were in right, you name it. Followed the threads, and that mega thread on troubleshooting. But the fact of the matter is that nothing changed between that point and when it was working. So after exhausting every choice, we came to the conclusion that it was the mobo. So I went and re-bought it, got it in the next day. Another $210 to fix a silly mistake, oh well, we all make mistakes, and my friend even offered to pay for it. Problem solved, right? Well, not so much.
So we get the new mobo, take everything off the old one, then put everything on the new one, and then put it in the case. Only issue was: it didn't start. I figured that we just missed something, it happens; so I look through it, see nothing not connected. Look through it again, make sure everything is in place, still nothing. I then, just to be sure, put in a different power supply again, still nothing (worth noting my fan test on my PSU worked - so it really just can't be it). Now I followed everything, the whole troubleshooting thread that is on this site - nothing. So the only thing I can think of that would prevent the system from even starting for a second is the CPU. I've made a few rigs before, and I know how rare it is for a CPU to even fry from a motherboard frying, but I tried everything I can think of, I followed the troubleshooting thread to a key about 20 times, and read all my manuals chronically. I even took out the CPU, examined it, and sit it back in. All I know is that currently, the culprit is *not* my mobo, since it is a fresh one, hasn't even turned on yet. Unless the new one I got was defected...
So, before I buy a new CPU, what do you all think, now that you have the same context that I have? Do you think it's the CPU that fried along with the motherboard as well? Does this even sound like something that would cause a CPU to die? What are the odds of that happening? That just seems like such an odd thing to happen, as mobos usually protect components from this kind of thing. I'd just like any extra opinions before I buy a new CPU - it just seems so unlikely. I'd appreciate it, thank you if you made it this far; a lot of typing, but I feel context is important for this kind of thing.
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