Kaby Lake 4k HTPC/NAS/General Use Build - Need Help With Chosen Parts

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Getting ready to build a Kaby Lake HTPC/home system, looking to see if anyone has any advice or recommendations based upon the build I've assembled below:

Purchase Date: Over the next 2-3 weeks.

Budget Range: Looking to keep it in the ~$500-700 range, can stretch it if needed.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: 1080p/4k streaming to TV, centralized network storage, photoshop, web browsing, potentially future gaming.

Are you buying a monitor: No - Streaming to Sharp LC-50N7000U 50" 4K TV and/or Toshiba Regza 54" 1080p TV. Potentially purchasing a monitor later.

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon, Newegg

Location: City, State/Region, Country - New York, NY

Parts Preferences: See below

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 4k UHD and 1080p

Additional Comments:

System is going to be primarily used for streaming stored media (HD/4k) to my 4k TV in my bedroom + 1080p TV in the living room. Looking to centralize and share my storage across my network (accessible by laptop, ipads, phones, etc), photoshopping, web browsing, etc. I had originally looked at Android TV boxes but decided to go ahead and build a system that I can use alongside my laptop (custom Sager i7 Sandy Bridge).

I've got like 2 2.5" SSD's (Intel 520 120GBs SATA 6) and a couple 3.5" HDD's (1TB & 500GB 7200RPM - Not positive if they're SATA II or III), along with like 4 portable HDD's - 1 USB 3.0 1TB,
three USB 2.0s (240GB, 320GB, 320GB ) that I basically want to consolidate in this machine and use as a NAS for my other devices.

Haven't gamed in a while so I'm looking to utilize Kaby Lake for the embedded 4k decoding to save on a GPU now, but with the option to add one later.

Here's what I've picked out so far:

Case -
Thermaltake Core V21 - $58 on Amazon
Thermaltake Core V21 Amazon Link

or Corsair 240 Air - $84 on Amazon, found a used (like new) one locally for $50
Corsair 240 Air Amazon Link


CPU - Any Kaby Lake CPU (prefer i5 or higher but I'm not positive). Not worried about OC'ing right now but need the 4k decoders and a decent speed. This I could use some help on. Is this something I can get away with an i3 for or is an i5+ necessary to do 4k@60hz?

I've been looking mainly at the i5-7400 or 7500 with the possibility of an i3-7100.

i5-7400 - $194 Amazon
i5-7400 Amazon Link

i5-7500 - $204 Amazon
i5-7500 Amazon Link

i3-7100 - $115.09
i3-7100 Amazon Link


CPU Cooler - I really am not sure. I believe the V21 has a max cooler size of 120mm. I've heard the Cooler Master Vortex is a good buy?:

Cooler Master Vortex Plus - $25.99 Amazon
Cooler Master Vortex Plus Amazon Link


Motherboard - I'm all over the road with this. I really don't know what my best option/need is. I don't intend on overclocking but wouldn't be opposed to it later. Doing 4k@60hz I also believe I need either a Displayport output or HDMI 2.2(?), or heard something about the Club 3D converter cable? Can anyone help with this?

I included one Z270 below to keep the option of overclocking open later. Other than the Z270, I believe a H270 board would be my best bet, followed by B250. I know the Z170/H170 boards will work with updated firmwares but I wont have a non kaby CPU to boot it to update the firmware..

I'd really prefer one with on board AC Wifi but not a deabreaker. Is onboard AC Wifi really that necessary or should I just get a board without it and buy a USB adapter? Again, my main intention is to use this box next to my TV as a centralized network storage system.

I would really like to keep the cost ~$100 but wiling to go ~$120 if there's a board that really sticks out and gives me what I need. I really need the best recommendation for this:

MSI Gaming Intel H270 DDR4 HDMI USB 3 mini-ITX Motherboard (H270I GAMING PRO AC) - $99.99 Amazon - AC Wifi, Single HDMI output
H270I GAMING PRO AC Amazon Link

MSI Gaming Intel B250 LGA 1151 DDR4 HDMI mini-ITX Motherboard (B250I GAMING PRO AC) - $101.95 Amazon - ITX board, AC Wifi, single HDMI output
B250I GAMING PRO AC Amazon Link

MSI Gaming Intel B250 LGA 1151 DDR4 HDMI VR Ready micro-ATX Motherboard (B250M MORTAR) - $86.99 - mATX board, no AC Wifi, HDMI + DP outputs, USB Type C
B250M MORTAR Amazon Link

MSI Arsenal Gaming Intel Z270M DDR4 HDMI USB 3 CrossFire micro-ATX Motherboard (Z270M MORTAR) - $119.99 Amazon (no AC wifi) - Both DisplayPort + HDMI outputs, USB 3.1 Type C
MSI Z270M MORTAR Amazon Link

MSI Pro Series Intel B250 LGA 1151 DDR4 HDMI USB 3.1 micro-ATX Motherboard (B250M PRO-VDH) - $74.99 Amazon - Single HDMI out, USB 3.1 Type C
MSI B250 M PRO-VDH Amazon Link

GIGABYTE GA-H270N-WIFI LGA1151 Intel H270 Mini ITX DDR4 Motherboard - $118.60 Amazon - AC Wifi, double HDMI connections, upgraded sound, USB Type C
GIGABYTE GA-H270N Wifi Amazon Link

If there's something else that you guys recommend, I'm all ears. I don't even know which out of these to really choose give the pricing is so similar.


RAM - Either 8 or 16GB, not picky as long as it's DDR3/4 (dependent upon the mobo I choose).
Recommendations?


PSU -
Recommendations?


Anything else you guys can recommend or tips/ recommendations of something I missed would be greatly helpful. TIA
 
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If you wanted future overclocking ability, you should also spend the money for the K processor if going Intel Kaby Lake, so that will be the 7600k or 7700k.
Something like this may work, it's designed to be a home theater PC... but maybe you want a real desktop:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7400 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($177.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($38.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($74.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($55.45 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Archive 8TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive ($224.00 @ B&H)
Case: nMEDIAPC HTPC 2800B HTPC Case ($89.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $720.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-01 14:08 EDT-0400

The 8tb HDD would be good for consolidating all your media files in one place, but bad for running any programs off of (because it's slow)

Some other hard drive options though:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kJfmP6/toshiba-internal-hard-drive-hdwe150xzsta
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Cs4gXL/hitachi-internal-hard-drive-hua723030ala640
 

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Thank you very much for the recommendations. Though I wouldn't mind building a mid/full size unit, living in a small NYC apt, I'm looking for something that has enough power to take advantage of the new 4K TV and potentially game on later but small enough to sit next to my entertainment center (no room for another monitor/desk/etc.)

I haven't seen the ASRock B250M specifically before. I see it specifies compatibility with the newer Intel graphics features embedded w/ the Kaby Lake CPU's, but from what I understand pretty much any of the 200 series mobo's will. Is there any specific advantages it has? Would you recommend it over any of these still, or what does it have I should be looking for in the others?

MSI Z270M MORTAR (for future OC'ing capability, USB 3.1 support, built in HDMI + DP + DVI, $89.99
ASRock H270M Pro4 LGA 1151 Intel H270 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Motherboards - Intel (still only USB 3.0, etc) - $84.99
ASRock Z270M Pro4 LGA 1151 Intel Z270 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Motherboards - Intel (overclocking ability, still no USB 3.1) - $104

I'm not too keen on the case (looks cheesy and very mixed reviews, loads of space though). Any others you recommend?

RAM I'll definitely grab.

I'll check out the cooler as well, any other options you would recommend? This one looks very slim and well reviewed, just no aesthetic value.

The storage was a thought as well. I was thinking of keeping the SSD's for load times and picking up a 4/6/8TB HDD like you mentioned.

I will check out the PSU as well. Thanks.