Ryzen 1800X and RAM 3200 MHz Issues

tfitch11

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Hey Toms!
Boyfriend just upgraded to an 1800X. Here are the rest of the specs
MSI Pro Gaming Carbon x370 Motherboard
16 GB (2x8) RAM CMK16GX4M2B3200C16W

In a nutshell, due to Ryzen issues, the memory will only read at 2133 MHz. We have tried going in and adjusting the timing settings based on other information we've seen. We simply cannot get the machine to boot with anything else. Here is what we would love if someone could help us on:

1. What is the best version of this BIOS to use?
2. What adjustments need to be made, and to what (understanding each system is different.. but having a starting point would be nice)
3. Any other options or insight appreciated

Thank you!
 
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There are a few things you can try, and remember, right now if that memory isn't on the QVL with Samsung chips you might not get it to where you want, little bit at a time. You can up the SOC voltage, somewhere near 1.1 is safe. Relax the timings. Up the RAM voltage I've heard as high as 1.5, I wouldn't happily go past 1.4. You can change the NB LLC to 1 or 2, that might help things, might not. Start low and move up slowly. Right now MSI is working dilligently on their memory compatibility, but it may take a few months or longer before we see the kind of numbers Intel is currently enjoying. Also though, the higher memory is actually a bigger factor than on an intel chip.

tfitch11

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The thing is I KNOW there is a way to do it... Its a challenge at this point
 
There are a few things you can try, and remember, right now if that memory isn't on the QVL with Samsung chips you might not get it to where you want, little bit at a time. You can up the SOC voltage, somewhere near 1.1 is safe. Relax the timings. Up the RAM voltage I've heard as high as 1.5, I wouldn't happily go past 1.4. You can change the NB LLC to 1 or 2, that might help things, might not. Start low and move up slowly. Right now MSI is working dilligently on their memory compatibility, but it may take a few months or longer before we see the kind of numbers Intel is currently enjoying. Also though, the higher memory is actually a bigger factor than on an intel chip.
 
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As Jossrik said, MSI is doing a great job, getting RAM compatible (and also making those XMP work). Asus on the otherhand seems to be taking it's sweet time. Upping the ram voltages has worked for me as well, sometimes, but as always especially with Asus, once you go 4 sticks instead of 2 all bets are off.
 

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So I'm sorry i'm getting to this so late, but I have been down this road, a lot, with trial BIOS setups and tweaking every configurable setting manually, and let me say this:

Your ram is configured to work at 3200mhz. If you haven't got it to work yet let me give you what I would do, as someone who got it to work on version 1.2 bios when it wasn't on a QVL list for MSI, now that it is simple. Use version 1.5 bios
For others reading this, your QVL list (approved and tested RAM with speed index is here: http://

OK here would be my plan:

1) clear CMOS (should be clear if you put a clean bios update on there if not, clear it)
2) take your CPU clock setting and your RAM settings to auto across the board. (You can change it back later)
3) Change power plan to performance in Windows (no need to use ryzen power plan its tagged to a crazy buggy chipset driver with windows creators
4) boot your computer 1, 2 or 3 times with memory at stock and put it under a little load and try to break it, forget prime or aida or whatever, pull up a game, get 20-30 chrome windows playing youtube, get 20-30 firefox windows, I mean literally put it to 100% ram usage and try to freak it out on flat stock, while that's running go have a break and let it run for a bit.
-step 4 is important because you will find buggy code in your system where it may throw an exception in normal circumstances, you need to find those so you don't lose your mind trying to find a crash, when its a windows issue (hours on me doing this!)
5) see step 4
6) see step 5
ok, now you're stable at stock (and i mean bulletproof stable)
7) get ready to find that CMOS button a lot you will freak your board out to the point you think its dead, but hold CMOS down, then unplug machine from the wall.
8)now the fun, play with xamp, I used second setting, make sure timings match Tested Latency: 16-18-18-36 see this page: http://
9) take your speed up to 3200
10) take voltage up to like 1.4 on RAM
11) leave CPU on stock auto settings
12) give the boot a try, if it freaks, CMOS reset and try the other xamp setting
13) tweak your voltage, but my bios/cpu auto set the voltage even when I manually set it at 1.4

My guess is youll be up and running at 3200 by then, if not you can ease up your northbridge voltage like .0125 and try again

At this point ill be honest, im running on auto volt with xamp 2 setting and it works fine, if yours is like mine you can completely ignore that auto configure ram "try me" even when all of it made logical sense to what the auto setting is, it freaked my mobo out every time

Its going to come down to voltage, almost guaranteed get ready to find the sweet spot and make sure you are super cool in your case, because jamming it up that high youll want to watch temps for extended play.

Good luck

DX