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Mohammed Kamal

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i wanna to buy i5 7600 and i wanna to buy hybrid cooling system and i was looking for something like kraken x52 or Corsair Hydro Series (h105,h110i,h115i) i rly need some advice pls help me :(
 
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The biggest issue is the fans. They are the only part that really makes any noise whatsoever unless you get a crappy pump. I own both a corsair H55 and a kraken x61 and both are dead silent except when submitted to stress testing, and then both are relatively quiet. However, I did replace the fan on the h55 with a Noctua nf-f12 I already had, because Corsair's SP120L are absolutely miserable fans. Both use Asetek pumps (the round ones) which are superior, Swiftec uses their own hybrid Asetek. The h100i series uses CoolIt pumps (square) which are hit or miss and the Eisberg are awful. I get 0 pump noise, even under a 4.9GHz stress test on my i7. Most complaints about pump noise come from the Corsair lineup, but what else is new when they...

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CPU cooler height is limit at 160mm, that means the best air cooler can fit that case is NH-D15S (also one of the best air cooler regardless of height/size). What's your budget though? You don't necessarily need the best if you only want mild overclock and don't want to spend too much.
 

Mohammed Kamal

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i have good budget
i mean i am rly looking for good liquid cooling, coues in summer here the room temperature become around 40 c to 45
that will be problem for the cpu and gpu
and i am playing good games and high end games like gta v that will make my gpu/ cpu heat of couse with other games open in back ground
 
I edited your build a bit. This version is $200 cheaper and will be faster in most modern AAA games:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($294.89 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($61.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($102.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 120GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($117.45 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Hybrid Gaming Video Card ($572.49 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1428.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-05 08:32 EDT-0400


However if you're getting a liquid cooler for aesthetics and not for performance reasons, might as well leave it in. It would still come out $100 cheaper, even if the liquid cooler isn't actually doing anything.
 

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the problem is not all this stuff i can afford in my country :'(
i was looking for the k version maybe later i will try to OC my pc that is why
and thx for trying to help me out
but i am still confused what to pick as cooler liquid system i am confused between corsair or nzxt :'(

 

Mohammed Kamal

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i mean i am fine with paying some money more to make my pc look better
and i know something if your cpu temp is low the cpu will stay longer with u what do u think
that is why i am looking for liquid cooler :)
 

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Stick with the X52. Air coolers are not better and are not quieter, although they may be cheaper at times. That issue stems from common knowledge that Corsair makes crappy fans that run high rpms so are loud compared to others. All of the nzxt aios run very quiet until maxed out, at which point any fan running over 1000rpm is loud.

The NH-D15 is 170mm tall with fans, it's just the heatsink which is 160mm tall, and with ram offsets can get taller. To get the S to hit 160mm you need to cram the single fan fully lowered.
 

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Oh really?

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8106/nzxt-kraken-x52-liquid-cpu-cooler-review/index7.html

Nothing is quieter than Noctua fan without sacrificing CFM. The thing is, there is also the pump that making noise under overclock as well, not just the fan. NZXT fan ran under 1000rpm and has same noise level as Noctua fan running at 1400rpm, so what happen when NZXT fan goes above 1000rpm?

http://www.legitreviews.com/nzxt-x42-x52-x62-liquid-cpu-cooler-review-roundup_190744/7

Still think NZXT is quieter than Noctua?
 

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ah
is it good cooler ?
i mean is the cooling performance better than corsair or the same
and the problem is that the nzxt support is rly bad as all amazon reviews said
 

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Yes, NZXT Cooler is better than Corsair but as you say, support is bad and Corsair is usually chosen because of their support but their cooler isn't very good. Now if you do want the best performance Swiftech and EKWB AIO are the best, and their AIO is ready for custom loop as well.

If you want ultra silent, Noctua or passive cooler like Le Grand Macho rt are the best. You can even take off the fan on Le Grand Macho rt for completely silent CPU cooler.
 

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The biggest issue is the fans. They are the only part that really makes any noise whatsoever unless you get a crappy pump. I own both a corsair H55 and a kraken x61 and both are dead silent except when submitted to stress testing, and then both are relatively quiet. However, I did replace the fan on the h55 with a Noctua nf-f12 I already had, because Corsair's SP120L are absolutely miserable fans. Both use Asetek pumps (the round ones) which are superior, Swiftec uses their own hybrid Asetek. The h100i series uses CoolIt pumps (square) which are hit or miss and the Eisberg are awful. I get 0 pump noise, even under a 4.9GHz stress test on my i7. Most complaints about pump noise come from the Corsair lineup, but what else is new when they have over 70% of the aio market. If only 1 pump in 10 is noisy, with over 1 million units sold every year, you are going to see some complaints. If only 1 fan in 10 is bad on a Noctua NH-D15, and they sold 20,000 world wide, you'll really have to dig to find a complaint.

If Corsair aios came stock with Noctua fans, 2 things would change. 1st, the noise argument would go right out the window, there's absolutely no comparing the quality of the Noctuas vrs Corsair's crap chunks of plastic they call fans, and 2nd, you'd actually see complaints about bad fans becoming more prevalent.

Here's the thing about air and liquid coolers in equitable circumstances, they pretty much work the same. Upto a point. The Corsair h60 has basically the same cooling potential as a CM hyper212 evo. The new h45 works the same as a cryorig H7. The Corsair h80i is equitable to a Noctua NH-D14. The Corsair h100i is equitable to a NH-D15. But thats where it stops. At most OC wattage ranges the king air NH-D15 will tie or beat a 280mm aio, except for maximum wattage. If you can actually push 250ish or better wattage, the D15 gets saturated and starts failing fast, whereas the 280mm are still going strong. Air coolers, even the largest towers, lack the one thing the large aios have, surface area. There's simply not enough at those maximum outputs. Anything less, yes, just as good if not better. Just as a 280mm aio can't compete with a custom loop running 2x 240mm,
not enough surface area to dissipate that kind of heat.

But that's history, with Skylake and newer cpus, you'll hit voltage limits long before hitting thermal limits, same with the Ryzen cpus. So air or liquid really doesn't make a difference at all, it's all aesthetics, which do you prefer, what fits in your case and what's the spending limit. You cannot ever over-cool a cpu, but you sure can under-cool one, so over-size limitations don't apply to the cpu, only to the case, your budget and taste.
 
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Mohammed Kamal

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i think i am going for nzxt couse i can't afford the other cooler u wrote about amazon doesn't ship the wiftech to my country :(