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no problem with temps as they are but i want it functioning up to it's max potential both cool and/or quiet-wise. it's an AIO cooler with it's own control software but the "Fan Control Software" that runs the hardware is sub-par.

the pump speeds vary from ~2000-3000 no matter what temps but the hardware claims it runs up to >3600. what these numbers coincide with in real-time i don't know. maybe cycles through the pump per minute?
also the fan speeds do not update fast enough through this software or follow the curves i set exactly.

a good fan control software is no problem. i have onboard and better 3rd party control for that when needed.

my question(s) is:
what is the best route for pushing this pump to it's max speeds and keeping it there if desired? and what may be a better option for actually monitoring the pump speed to see if it's hitting it's max?

Thermaltake
Water 3.0 Extreme
 
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Speedfan will let you manually override most fan speed settings. It's worth noting that fan and pump speed specifications are only accurate to +/- 15-20%. I've found that the speeds a pump/fan will achieve are normally about that much below the specified max speed.

Also, the fan speeds on a water cooler are a function of the water temperature, not the CPU temperature. The water takes a bit of time to heat up, and so the fans will not respond immediately to a rise in CPU temp. Even if they did, the water in the radiator wouldn't be hot, and that means that it would make little to no difference to the CPU temperature.

Basically, the water in the loop is cool at idle. When you load the CPU, the water will still be cool. Only the water coming out of the CPU block will be any warmer. The water entering the CPU block will still be cool, and it isn't until the heated water reaches the radiator that the fans have any impact on cooling. It isn't until the heated water goes through the radiator and enters the CPU block that the fan's response time plays any role at all in the CPU temps.

Lastly, the fan speeds reported in software are usually only accurate to +/- 10%. Normally the reported speed will jump around within that range, and will be centered on the real fan speed. If you average the reported values over time, you can get a much better estimate of fan speed.
 
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as i stated, fan temps/readings are not a problem and not part of the thread/question... and you should be able to tell through the thread that the basic facts about water cooling are also not part of the question.

please stick to answering the actual question that was asked.
 
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As I stated in my first post, you want to get SpeedFan. It is software that can control most fan speeds. If the fans are controlled by the motherboard, you can use SpeedFan to control them.

It was literally the first word of the post. I don't know how much more direct I can get.

UPDATE: If you set the fans/pump to 100%, and disable temperature control, it will ensure that the corresponding device is running at the absolute greatest speed that it is capable of. That speed will be lower than what the box says. Your pump is almost certainly running at full speed.
 
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no one asked for software to control fans, as i explained in the first reply. maybe learn to read:

"a good fan control software is no problem. i have onboard and better 3rd party control for that when needed.
my question(s) is:
what is the best route for pushing this pump to it's max speeds and keeping it there if desired? and what may be a better option for actually monitoring the pump speed to see if it's hitting it's max?"

 
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Were you asking for a hardware solution? I read your question to mean "I'm okay with using software to solve this problem", not "I already have an acceptable software solution". Specifically, if you had an acceptable software solution, there wouldn't be a problem to solve.

Also, the pump on the Themaltake Water 3.0 is spec'd to run at up to 2900 RPM +/- 150 RPM. It's powered/controlled by USB, which means you'd have to reverse engineer the command protocol in order to force the pump to max speed if you can't achieve this with existing software solutions.

For a hardware solution, you'd have to open the pump housing, identify the speed control circuitry, verify that it is separate from the speed monitoring circuitry, and then fashion a hardware bypass that overrides the speed control system.

Short of that, you'll just have to live with the issue.
 
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