Ryzen 7 1700x or Intel core i7 7700k

Stepho456 · May 8, 2017

So i was looking to buy a high end gaming PC with a budget around 1600 us dollars and was looking to future proof it, and since I wont be upgrading for the next 3 years. I was wondering if i should get a Ryzen 7 1700x or a Intel core I7 7700k?

I will mostly be looking to game at 4K and edit 4K videos. I was also hoping to get a GTX 1080 also.

Thank You,
Stephen

Atomicdonut17 · May 8, 2017

The Intel i7 7700k still has the edge in gaming because of its adapted platform, it's an "older" CPU compared to the infantile Ryzen, thus its issues have been mostly worked out. Though the Ryzen platform might have better optimization across the board in a later time, give or take a year or so, Intel is still on the ball. HOWEVER, by way of future proofing, it's sorta an odd battle. I'd say Ryzen, because Intel's LGA1151/2011v3 socket types are coming near their EOL period (typically 3-4 years by Intel standards) and they're still very good, but the future of gaming and workstations calls for higher core counts. I'm sure Intel will debut better platforms, but we're talking in the moment. For immediate performance with no hassle but suseptability to age, i7. For a bit less optimization now, but more of a chance for futureproofing later (due to the newness of AM4) I'd go Ryzen.

Stepho456 · May 8, 2017

Atomicdonut17 :

The Intel i7 7700k still has the edge in gaming because of its adapted platform, it's an "older" CPU compared to the infantile Ryzen, thus its issues have been mostly worked out. Though the Ryzen platform might have better optimization across the board in a later time, give or take a year or so, Intel is still on the ball. HOWEVER, by way of future proofing, it's sorta an odd battle. I'd say Ryzen, because Intel's LGA1151/2011v3 socket types are coming near their EOL period (typically 3-4 years by Intel standards) and they're still very good, but the future of gaming and workstations calls for higher core counts. I'm sure Intel will debut better platforms, but we're talking in the moment. For immediate performance with no hassle but suseptability to age, i7. For a bit less optimization now, but more of a chance for futureproofing later (due to the newness of AM4) I'd go Ryzen.

Thank you so much!

Isokolon · May 8, 2017

Depends on the screen you're running.
But at 4k I'd go with Ryzen for following reasons:

- the 7700k pushes higher frames but the Ryzen 7 should be sufficient and push more fps at this resolution than any GPU right now.
- rendering time on the Ryzen is significantly lower due to the extra cores and threads
- future proofing means extra cores and threads imo. I can't see a new breakthrough that will boost the singlethread-performance significantly in the next years. More likely multi-threading will become more and more important.

TL;DR: Ryzen's gaming performance is good enough for the resolution, for editing it's way superior. Go for Ryzen.

Spring1898 · May 8, 2017

Also, supposedly Zen2 Pinnacle Ridge will be compatible with with the current motherboards for Ryzen, meaning in a year or so you should be able to upgrade just your processor if more performance is needed.

You may want to consider the 1700 over the 1700x as from the tests that have been going around, all Ryzen chips max out around a 4.0 overclock, so not worth paying more for an increased base-clock, especially if you are transcoding.

Stepho456 · May 9, 2017

Spring1898 :

Thank you for letting me know, do you by chance know if a crosair h60 120mm water cooler be enough to overclock to 4 ghz and keep it under 80c

Spring1898 · May 9, 2017

That depends largely on the specific chip. Most coolers (even the Wraith Spire) are able to handle the "typical" overclock for Ryzen, or the level at which gradual increases of voltage reach higher clock speeds. But there comes a point where either you max out the hardware limitation (around 4.1ghz), or a sudden need for increased voltage exceeds the ability of the cooler.

For example, say 3.9ghz you can reach with 1.35v, but to reach 4.0 stable you need 1.39v, (these are just random numbers) you will be unlikely to manage the increased voltage with the H60. Probably a 240mm or large air cooler would be necessary.

Superior 120mm radiators would only decrease your operating temps for the "typical" overclock.

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