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I customized a PC at Cyberpowerpc.com and wanted any opinions on my build. And before you yell at me for getting a pre-built PC just give me an honest opinion on this.

BLKFRISALE1: CYBERPOWERPC Skorpion K1 RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard w/ Kontact Blue Switches and Programmable RGB LED Lighting [+5]
BLKFRISALE2: CyberpowerPC Gaming Mouse Pad [+0]
BLUETOOTH: None
CABLE: 6-FT HDMI Flat Cable, V1.4, Supports 3D & 4K Resolution, Gold Plated Connector Cable [+9] (1 piece)
CARE1: Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution - Protect Your Dream System During Transit [+19]
CAS: CyberPowerPC AZZA 260S Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Full-size Tempered Glass Panel Window + 7 color RGB LED [-19] (Black Color)
CASUPGRADE: None
CC: None
CD: None
CD2: None
COOLANT: None
CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i5-7600K 3.80GHZ 6MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1151 (Kaby Lake)
CS_FAN: Default case fans
DOCKINGSTATION: None
ENGRAVING: None
EVGA_POWER: None
FA_HDD: Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling System [+21] (1 x System)
FAN: ENERMAX ETS-T40F-BK CPU Cooler w/ Black ENERMAX Twister PWM fans [+1]
FLASHMEDIA: None
FREEBIE_CU1: CyberPowerPC GreenManGaming Mystery Loot Chest Bundle [+0]
HD_M2SSD: 128GB SanDisk X400 M.2 SATA III 6Gb/s SSD - 520MB/s Read & 415MB/s Write [+58] (Single Drive)
HD_PCIE1X_SSD: None
HDD: 120GB WD Green SSD + 1TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo (Combo Drive)
HDD2: None
HEADSET: None
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD: None [-5]
MEMORY: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/2400MHz Dual Channel Memory [-40] (Corsair or Major Brand)
MONITOR: 22" Widescreen 1920x1080 LG 22MC37D-B 5ms LED Backlight, D-Sub, DVI-D & Analog RGB [+120] (Single Monitor)
MOPAD: None
MOTHERBOARD: MSI Z270-A Pro ATX w/ USB 3.1, 2 PCIe x16, 4 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 1 M.2 SATA/PCIe [Intel Optane Ready]
MOUSE: None [-3]
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
NOISEREDUCE1: Sound Absorbing Foam on Side, Top And Bottom panels [+29]
OS: Windows 10 Home (64-bit Edition)
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
POWERSUPPLY: 600 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready
PRO_WIRING: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chassis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]
RUSH: Standard processing time: ship within 5 to 10 Business Days
SECURITY: None
SERVICE: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)
SLI_BRIDGE: None
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: Logitech S120 2.0 Stereo Speaker Set [+19] (Black Color)
TEMP: None
TUNING: None
USBHD: None
USBX: None
VIDEO: GeForce® GTX 1070 Founder Edition 8GB GDDR5 (Pascal)[VR Ready] [+184] (Single Card)
VIVE_HEADSET: None
WARRANTY: STANDARD WARRANTY: 1 Year Parts WARRANTY
WNC: None
WTV: None
 
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$1198 for a ryzen 1600, 16gb ram ,240gb ssd ,2tb HDD, RX 580 4gb & windows 10

BASE_PRICE: [+1255]
BLUETOOTH: None
CABLE: None
CAS: Thermaltake Core V31 Black Mid-Tower Gaming case w/ USB 3.0 & removable Drive Bays & Side-Panel Window [-15]
CASUPGRADE: None
CC: None
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive [+17] (BLACK COLOR)
CD2: None
COOLANT: None
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz [3.6GHz Turbo] Six-Core 16MB L3 Cache 95W Processor [-300]
CS_FAN: Default case fans
DOCKINGSTATION: None
ENGRAVING: None
EVGA_POWER: None
FA_HDD: None
FAN: DeepCool GAMMAXX 400 CPU Air Cooler 4 Heatpipes 120MM [-27]
FLASHMEDIA: None
FREEBIE_CU: Extra $50 Instant Rebate on all AMD Ryzen powered PCs [-50]
HD_M2SSD: None
HD_PCIE1X_SSD: None
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Well, I would have went with a 7700K and 1080, but that's just me.

However, not sure what PSU they are using. Do you really need 7.1 surround sound? I wish they would throw Windows 10 Pro as it's more useful. I think two 128GB SSDs is stupid. One single 250GB is much better paired with a 1TB hard drive. I've never really heard of Enermax. How much is this costing you?
 
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I changed the SSD to what you suggested, The 7.1 surround sound comes with it at no extra cost, and in total it costs me $1,582
 
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It doesn't list the exact brand but it does say this "600 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready"
 
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building a pc is easy. u can save hundreds or go with a 7700k, 1070 with a g sync 144hz monitor along with gaming peripherals for the same price. not to mention cooler looking case and a RGB mobo with high speed ram. u r missing these out in ur pre built pc.
the gpu is founders edition. u can go for a custom card with better oc potential.
 
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Board , CPU, ram , case all fine.

Drives , single 240gb ssd + a standard 7200rpm secondary is what you want.

PSU - likely to be low quality
Extra like rgbs etc unnecessary
Monitor will be overpriced & similar cheaper from Amazon.
Hard drive cooling system - unnecessary gimmick
Sound absorbing foam $29 !!?? - no , just buy a better case to begin with.
$19 for cable tidying - another p**s take.


Gtx 1070 founder s ? No I'd want a decent aftermarket card.Whats the base card foe that system before you add the 1070 for an extra $184 ??
& a 1070 on a 21inch 1080p 60htz budget screen is just plain overkill

In short you're probably overspending by at least $300-400 .

In short as a base its a well specced system but you can no doubt do far far better budget wise.

As asked how much is this system ??
 
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Sub $1500/ryzen build - & before you say thats not much cheaper & you'll have to build yourself these components are all excellent quality & that's a 1440p 27 inch IPS screen in there.
& that's what owning a card like the 1070 is all about.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($218.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($112.33 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($94.68 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba - 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.38 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($379.99 @ Jet)
Case: Zalman - ZM-Z9 NEO WH ATX Mid Tower Case ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.79 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC - Q2778VQE 27.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor ($239.99 @ Best Buy)
Keyboard: Cooler Master - Devastator II Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($29.99 @ Jet)
Speakers: Logitech - Z313 25W 2.1ch Speakers ($34.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1485.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-12 03:26 EDT-0400

Should you be happy with 1080p then you can go much much cheaper.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($218.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($112.33 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($94.68 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba - 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.38 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 4GB Gaming 4G Video Card ($198.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Zalman - ZM-Z9 NEO WH ATX Mid Tower Case ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.79 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: AOC - G2460VQ6 24.0" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($169.99 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Cooler Master - Devastator II Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($29.99 @ Jet)
Speakers: Logitech - Z313 25W 2.1ch Speakers ($34.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1234.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-12 03:34 EDT-0400
 
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With all the Bling factor and quality parts :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($218.49 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($109.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team - T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston - HyperX Fury 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($80.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8GB AORUS 8G Video Card ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: LEPA - LP-BOL12P-R 81.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($12.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: LEPA - LP-BOL12P-BL 81.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($12.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($207.07 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Redragon - S102 Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($33.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1271.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-12 04:12 EDT-0400
 
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Im paying $1582 for the entire thing, also the website doesn't really list the brand of the power supply how do i know it's cheap?
 
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I would like to build one myself, but its just so intimidating. how do I know if ive gotten everything i need? what if i put the stuff in wrong and break it? I just worry that I wont do it well enough
 
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I do understand that & the appeal of having a system built & delivered , preinstalled & with a rtb warranty.

Its just the fact it costs $300 extra for the privilege & you don't have proper control of parts like the GPU & PSU which to me is important.

 
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would I not be able to upgrade the parts if necessary? if that is the case then i will have to think about building my own more because im getting a gaming PC because i want it to be able to be upgraded when i want it to. Ive made a similar mistake before when i bought an alienware laptop just cause i thought it would be good forever, not the best move by me lol.
 
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Its absolutely upgradeable mate , make no mistake there.
This is a standard atx case with standard atx parts.
The only real concern is the non branded PSU.

That said I think even buying a custom build from cyberpower you can do a better job of that budget mate.
Some of the extras are unnecessary & you would be 100% better buying peripherals (KB, mouse, speakers,monitor, cables) from elsewhere separately.

I'm mobile bound at the minute , later I'll have a peruse at the website & see if there are better options for you.

You'll still overpay somewhat but I'm certain we can either get the price down or the performance & overall quality up a notch.
 
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Thank you very much, I'm also wondering if it's possible to have a 4K moniter with the video card that I have?
 
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If you don't feel up to building you can shop around for similar services where you can specify the PSU and they'll build & test it for you.

Typically the most intimidating part is assembling the MOBO+CPU+COOLER combo and eg. in my small country there used to be a store where you could pick that part of assembly to be done for just a few dozen bucks.

The rest is basically just inserting stuff into slots (not much possibility for mistakes there) and tightening the screws. Of course you'll need to handle it carefully not to touch sensitive parts (PC components are full of them :) ) and mind the possibility of static discharge.

All of it takes time but the chances are after you've built your first box you'll never look back.
 
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So i cut back on the peripherals, but i'm uncertain what kind of power supply I should go for still. here are the new specs and overall price at the bottom.

BLKFRISALE1: CyberpowerPC Gaming Mouse Pad [+0]
BLUETOOTH: None
CABLE: None
CARE1: Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution - Protect Your Dream System During Transit [+19]
CAS: CyberPowerPC AZZA 260S Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Full-size Tempered Glass Panel Window + 7 color RGB LED [-19] (Black Color)
CASUPGRADE: None
CC: None
CD: None
CD2: None
COOLANT: None
CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i5-7600K 3.80GHZ 6MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1151 (Kaby Lake)
CS_FAN: Default case fans
DOCKINGSTATION: None
ENGRAVING: None
EVGA_POWER: None
FA_HDD: Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling System [+21] (1 x System)
FAN: ENERMAX ETS-T40F-BK CPU Cooler w/ Black ENERMAX Twister PWM fans [+1]
FLASHMEDIA: None
FREEBIE_CU1: CyberPowerPC GreenManGaming Mystery Loot Chest Bundle [+0]
HD_M2SSD: None
HD_PCIE1X_SSD: None
HDD: 240GB WD Green SSD + 1TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo [+28] (Combo Drive)
HDD2: None
HEADSET: None
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD: None [-5]
MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR4/2400MHz Dual Channel Memory [-40] (Corsair or Major Brand)
MONITOR: None
MOPAD: None
MOTHERBOARD: MSI Z270-A Pro ATX w/ USB 3.1, 2 PCIe x16, 4 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 1 M.2 SATA/PCIe [Intel Optane Ready]
MOUSE: None [-3]
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
NOISEREDUCE1: Sound Absorbing Foam on Side, Top And Bottom panels [+29]
OS: Windows 10 Home (64-bit Edition)
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
POWERSUPPLY: 600 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready
PRO_WIRING: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chassis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]
RUSH: Standard processing time: ship within 5 to 10 Business Days
SECURITY: None
SERVICE: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)
SLI_BRIDGE: None
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: None
TEMP: None
TUNING: None
USBHD: None
USBX: None
VIDEO: GeForce® GTX 1070 Founder Edition 8GB GDDR5 (Pascal)[VR Ready] [+184] (Single Card)
VIVE_HEADSET: None
WARRANTY: STANDARD WARRANTY: 1 Year Parts WARRANTY
WNC: None
WTV: None
_PRICE: (+1513)
 
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Still a few oddities there. If money is not tight you could get Intel Optane + regular HDD drive. Is this a single drive with the 240GB SSD built in and only used as a cache? Optane is possibly higher performing and does basically the same.

Enermax used to make very high quality PSUs, I've been running a 80 Gold Plus one for several years. I'd suppose its fan is positioned as a quality equipment.

I'd go with a PSU that has a reputable brand for starters. 80 Plus something is a plus in my mind.
 
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You appear to be coming in at still over $1500 but with no monitor included mate.
Which seems wrong seeing as you're saying the original was $1583 total WITH a monitor ??

From the psu's on there the corsair cxm650 should be the one you're choosing , its the most reasonably priced extra & is a very good psu.
 
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Thats cause i gave you the wrong price, its actually down to 1471, including 650 Corsair powersupply
 
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HD_M2SSD: 16GB Intel® Optane™ Memory Accelerator M.2 PCIe NVMe + 1TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo [ARRAY MODE] [+105] (OS Drive)
HD_PCIE1X_SSD: None
HDD: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [-40] (Single Drive)

So it would be better to have this (Above) instead of this (Below)

HD_M2SSD: None
HD_PCIE1X_SSD: None
HDD: 240GB WD Green SSD + 1TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo [+28] (Combo Drive)
 
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I'm as confused as you are as the output is a bit hard to understand :) Now they are listing two 1 TB HDDs for you? That doesn't make sense... if you need 2 TB of storage space, just get one HDD and drop the other.
 
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The intel optane comes with another hard drive, you can't specify the intel itself, also i need to have something selected in the hard drive section and that 1TB hard drive is the cheapest one. I wish that weren't so lol i even have an extra external 1TB hard drive i keep around just in case... SOO MUCH SPACE UNUSED
On another note, I hope they send me the cord i need to actually power the computer itself. If not i suppose i could find the right kind of cord but that would be a little annoying
 
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The problem appears to be the logic of their customizing engine :) I'd contact their customer support.
 
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