Working out a highly mobile build (Advice/Suggestions)

Xibyth · May 13, 2017

Budget is at max $1400, the components listed are pretty overkill for my needs on the go as I already have an overkill desktop for home use. Namely, I'm looking for suggestions and recommendations on the display, RAM (I would like 32GB, but no heatsinks and between 3000-3200 mhz speed), and the case (if I can go thinner, lighter, and smaller totally, but would still prefer to use an SFX PSU rather than a pico PSU, as when I stop traveling it will be moved to a mountable case for TV use. I also need an LTE device (I don't want to tether) if possible.

Uses for this system will be AAA gaming, application development, and 3-d modeling. Here is what I have put together so far.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($218.49 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Biostar - X370GTN Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($88.39 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card ($209.16 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case w/450W Power Supply ($129.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 LUX RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Mouse: Logitech - G502 Wired Optical Mouse (Purchased For $0.00)
Other: G.SKILL Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Intel Z170 Platform Memory (Desktop Memory) Model F4-3000C16D-16GISB ($110.99 @ Newegg)
Other: AOC i1659fwux 16-inch IPS Ultra Slim Full HD 1920x 1080, 220cd/m2, USB 3.0 powered portable LED monitor w/case ($149.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $936.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Chugalug_ · May 13, 2017

You can do way better for a mobile system, i'll make you a list in 10.

Chugalug_ · May 13, 2017

That biostar board has been out of stock everywhere for ages and selling out in minutes.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($294.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-L9i 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($38.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B250I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($88.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card ($683.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cooler Master - Elite 110 Mini ITX Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($43.49 @ Amazon)
Monitor: AOC - I2279VWHE 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($79.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1398.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Chugalug_ · May 13, 2017

Alternative.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($294.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-L9i 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($38.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - H270I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Hitachi - Travelstar 1TB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Enermax - REVOLUTION SFX 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($106.14 @ Jet)
Monitor: Acer - KN242HYL 23.8" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1332.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-13 02:06 EDT-0400

Chugalug_ · May 13, 2017

Recommended one.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($294.98 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-L9i 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($38.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B250I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($88.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW DT GAMING Video Card ($471.89 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Core 500 Mini ITX Desktop Case ($57.24 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($43.49 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Dell - P2416D 23.8" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor ($244.18 @ Amazon)
Total: $1383.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-13 02:11 EDT-0400

Xibyth · May 13, 2017

Chugalug_ :

I really do want to stick with the 1600 or 1700 for this build as they will drastically reduce my rendering times for my models and make a huge difference when compiling my applications. I also need the case to be slim and no heatsinks on the RAM.

Chugalug_ · May 13, 2017

Ah, okay, didn't think it was as big.

That's fine.
You're just going to have to wait for that Biostar board to come back into stock wherever you can get it though, I would have recommended Ryzen but thats the only board on the market.
Get the mobo on top of this.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($311.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-L9i 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($38.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Enermax - REVOLUTION SFX 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($106.14 @ Jet)
Monitor: Dell - P2416D 23.8" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor ($244.18 @ Amazon)
Total: $1249.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-13 10:55 EDT-0400

Xibyth · May 13, 2017

Chugalug_ :

I don't mean any offense by this, but I'm not sure you follow me. I need a lighter, mobile build. The screens your choosing are not mobile, and very likely to break with frequent plane flights. The node 202 has no 3.5" drive slots, and I don't want heatspreaders on my RAM for cable clearence reasons and minimizing weight to the maximum.

Chugalug_ · May 13, 2017

I get you.
The RAM is relatively short, you need headspreaders of some kind or they'll overheat, cable management is perfectly fine, i've put in a fully modular PSU, meaning you need only connect what you need, which would be very minimal.
The heatspreaders would only amount to a few grams anyway.
I'll change the CPU cooler to a slightly lighter one however.
Thanks for pointing out the 3.5" drive, forgot to change that one over as I had earlier.

You're not going to get a build any lighter than this.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($311.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi - Travelstar 1TB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Enermax - REVOLUTION SFX 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($106.14 @ Jet)
Monitor: Dell - P2416D 23.8" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor ($244.18 @ Amazon)
Total: $1244.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-13 22:10 EDT-0400

Be sure to ask Cryorig for an AM4 mounting kit for the C7 cooler from their site, there's an AM4 page specifically for it.
http://www.cryorig.com/getam4.php

Xibyth · May 13, 2017

Chugalug_ :

Heatspreaders actually only improve temps temporarily, over time due to the lack of effective surface area and low air pressure to remove heat they actually work more like a backplate on a GPU. All else aside I can't travel with that monitor in a breifcase. As for the drive, I really don't need much storage, but speed and weight of the media counts, so I'll stick with an M.2 and cut costs a bit with a sata interface.

Rogue Leader · May 13, 2017

Chugalug_ :

Yeah....no. Please make sure to read and listen to the OP when posting, all I see is multiple replies here not listening at all. As well as a statement like this thats absolute malarkey.

Xibyth, your original build was decent I made some changes however:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($311.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Biostar - X370GTN Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case w/450W Power Supply ($129.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 LUX RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Mouse: Logitech - G502 Wired Optical Mouse (Purchased For $0.00)
Other: G.SKILL Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Intel Z170 Platform Memory (Desktop Memory) Model F4-3000C16D-16GISB ($110.99 @ Newegg)
Other: AOC i1659fwux 16-inch IPS Ultra Slim Full HD 1920x 1080, 220cd/m2, USB 3.0 powered portable LED monitor w/case ($149.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $1189.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-13 22:57 EDT-0400

Still within your budget, the 1070 Mini is way better for AAA gaming and rendering depending on the program, but only has an 8 pin connector which is good considering the 450w psu. The PSU that comes with that case isn't the greatest but its not horrible and should do the job. ALso put in the Samsung 960evo SSD its a much better drive. As well as an R7, for rendering.

Deleted member 217926 · May 13, 2017

The RAM is relatively short, you need headspreaders of some kind or they'll overheat,

Sources? Citations of DDR4 ever overheating under any conditions?

Bueller? Bueller?

Still wouldn't even use anything less than 3200/14 in a Ryzen build. Even if it means sacrificing an NVMe drive.

Chugalug_ · May 13, 2017

Just in ITX cases with generic RAM on hot days i've seen two sets of RAM fail before, I'm cautious of going without casings in conditions such as these.
The height won't make much of a difference imo, but if you don't want casing i'll edit it. :C
Edit: Wait, I didn't mean to say heat spreaders, they barely do anything...
Ignore what I said @OP, stupid typo.

Chugalug_ · May 13, 2017

Updated, chuck in the Biostar board and you're set.
If you don't want the Dell monitor but want that portable USB one you posted initially swap it out.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($311.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Hitachi - Travelstar 1TB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Enermax - REVOLUTION SFX 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($106.14 @ Jet)
Monitor: Dell - P2416D 23.8" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor ($244.18 @ Amazon)
Other: G.SKILL Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Intel Z170 Platform Memory (Desktop Memory) Model F4-3000C16D-16GISB ($110.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1260.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-13 23:56 EDT-0400

Lutfij · May 14, 2017

Just in ITX cases with generic RAM on hot days i've seen two sets of RAM fail before, I'm cautious of going without casings in conditions such as these.

How do you expect DDR4 ram to overheat when 1.35v is supposed to be the absolute maximum voltage?

If we were looking back at DDR3 (1.65v~1.8v)and prior then yeah that was something to worry about however even a heavily overclocked pair of DDR4 ram kit will not exceed 1.35v on any given day If a ram kit failed it was due to a faulty kit not due to it's thermals.

Chugalug_ · May 14, 2017

Good point.

They were both DDR3 kits in small cases, so maybe that's it.

g-unit1111 · May 14, 2017

Chugalug_ :

Then how do you explain DDR4 in modern laptops? Or modules that are already installed in modern HTPCs?

Chugalug_ · May 14, 2017

Quite a few of those are low voltage variants of DDR memory, as I mentioned, the kits that failed were generic DDR3 memory sticks in a tiny, flat case with a 970 ITX and 4790 in there.
I suspected the RAM had overheated as a result, but i've been corrected and reaffirmed they were probably just faulty kits.
It's fine, all cleared up now, no need to keep going on the same topic.

Chugalug_ · May 14, 2017

Here's my final list.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($310.98 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Hitachi - Travelstar 1TB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case ($74.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Enermax - REVOLUTION SFX 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($106.14 @ Jet)
Other: G.SKILL Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Intel Z170 Platform Memory (Desktop Memory) Model F4-3000C16D-16GISB ($110.99 @ Newegg)
Other: BIOSTAR X370GTN AM4 AMD X370 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI Mini ITX AMD Motherboard ($112.98 @ Newegg)
Other: AOC i1659fwux 16-inch IPS Ultra Slim Full HD 1920x 1080, 220cd/m2, USB 3.0 powered portable LED monitor w/case ($149.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $1406.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-14 01:50 EDT-0400

Rogue Leader · May 14, 2017

Chugalug_ :

We knew what you meant, its still completely and utterly wrong. Heatsinks on ram these days are about 99% for show, and help the 1% of people who push their oveclocks really high.

So now after 10 posts to the guy ignoring everything he has said and asked for, you post basically the same build I did (which is far more directly derivative of his original build), but with an additional hard drive that the OP said he didn't need. The only place I'll agree with you is using that Enermax is probably a better idea.

Do we see the issue here?

Xibyth, you were on the right track hopefully we were able to shed some light on what you are looking for. ANd I apologize for any confusion found within this thread.

Chugalug_ · May 14, 2017

If you'll see what I said above, I mistakenly wrote heatsinks instead of casing.
The conversation is over, let it be, i've learnt from it, no need to press into me further.

Also it's just an edited version of mine with the RAM you found added in (great find btw), and OP's monitor which I neglected to notice is 1080p, as I thought it would be some variety of lower res portable display.
By no means trying to copy in any way, our builds just happen to be very similar.
I've also stuck in a Hitachi Travelstar 1TB drive which could be a pretty crucial addition.

Rogue Leader · May 14, 2017

Chugalug_ :

Thats not what I said, I said if you read the OP and followed his direction, this thread wouldn't have turned into the confusing mess it has become (on top of posting utterly wrong information). Its literally the most important part of answering questions here.

Xibyth · May 14, 2017

Rogue Leader :

Chugalug_ :

Yeah....no. Please make sure to read and listen to the OP when posting, all I see is multiple replies here not listening at all. As well as a statement like this thats absolute malarkey.

Xibyth, your original build was decent I made some changes however:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($311.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Biostar - X370GTN Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case w/450W Power Supply ($129.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 LUX RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard (Purchased For $0.00)
Mouse: Logitech - G502 Wired Optical Mouse (Purchased For $0.00)
Other: G.SKILL Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Intel Z170 Platform Memory (Desktop Memory) Model F4-3000C16D-16GISB ($110.99 @ Newegg)
Other: AOC i1659fwux 16-inch IPS Ultra Slim Full HD 1920x 1080, 220cd/m2, USB 3.0 powered portable LED monitor w/case ($149.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $1189.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-13 22:57 EDT-0400

Still within your budget, the 1070 Mini is way better for AAA gaming and rendering depending on the program, but only has an 8 pin connector which is good considering the 450w psu. The PSU that comes with that case isn't the greatest but its not horrible and should do the job. ALso put in the Samsung 960evo SSD its a much better drive. As well as an R7, for rendering.

Thank you for the reccomendations, I will be picking up a slightly different variation (3200) from Microcenter for $10 less and removing the stickers as I did on the kit I currently own. If anyone can find a better mobile display at a max of 17" that would be awsome. Again, thank you for the input guys.

Chugalug_ · May 15, 2017

Rogue Leader :

Chugalug_ :

Thats not what I said, I said if you read the OP and followed his direction, this thread wouldn't have turned into the confusing mess it has become (on top of posting utterly wrong information). Its literally the most important part of answering questions here.

Sorry, i'll try not to do it again. Was based on a silly misinterpretation of mine.
Thanks.

Chugalug_ · May 15, 2017

Xibyth :

Rogue Leader :

Thank you for the reccomendations, I will be picking up a slightly different variation (3200) from Microcenter for $10 less and removing the stickers as I did on the kit I currently own. If anyone can find a better mobile display at a max of 17" that would be awsome. Again, thank you for the input guys.

That's the best portable monitor I could find, seems like a great deal, I wouldn't want to go any more than 16" for a portable display.

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