Is this the best pre built PC I should get for around 700 dollars? Why do people even bother building their own PC's?

MrMitchMan04 · May 13, 2017

I have a budget of around 700 dollars. I was ready to order parts to build my PC, when I found this:

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXiVR8020A2-Desktop-i5-7400-802-11AC/dp/B01NBL8BER/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1494700272&sr=1-3&keywords=cyberpowerpc

Costs 720 dollars, and all of the parts for this computer costs around 705 dollars, maybe even more. So why do people always say you can save a lot of money by building your own PC?

AMD RX 480 4GB: Around 250$
Intel i5-7400 3.0GHz: Around 180$
8GB DDR4 RAM: Around 50$
Blue Hard Drive: 50$
600w power supply: 50$
DVD drive: Around 25$
Intel B250 Chipset Motherboard: Around 50$
Case: 50$

705 dollar total.

Plus free mouse and keyboard

Also, is there any other pre built pc out there around 700 dollars that is better than this before I buy it?

USAFRet · May 13, 2017

It's not so much 'saving money', but rather getting better quality parts and WAY better assembly for the same money.

(especially with CyberPower)

WildCard999 · May 13, 2017

One of many reasons many of us prefer building is that prebuilt PC's usually cut cost by putting cheap motherboards and even worse is low quality PSU's which could cause issues or even damage the system if parts were upgraded or overclocked.

While this build isn't cheaper the GPU is better and the quality of parts is much better.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7400 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($176.44 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 4GB Gaming 4G Video Card ($198.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($33.90 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $718.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-13 14:53 EDT-0400

drkatz42 · May 13, 2017

I wouldn't argue that building is cheaper than prebuilt. Building gives me a sense of accomplishment and I get to select each and every component. I also get to choose to not skimp price wise on the ever so important PSU, as most prebuilt system manufacturers do. Over time, I can reuse the case, hd, psu, OS, etc etc on my next build or upgrade.

USAFRet · May 13, 2017

And at your price range of ~$700, there really isn't anywhere to go for less, and still be a "gaming PC".

Once you start looking at ~$1200 and up, the buy vs build becomes WAY more apparent.

Recently, there was a prebuilt system here for ~$2500.
The exact same parts list (or better) came in at $1800.

And then you add in the legendary CyberPower build non-quality.

MrMitchMan04 · May 13, 2017

Everyone is saying it is bad because its hard to upgrade it. Just so you know I am NOT upgrading this PC. Getting 70-80fps average on very high settings on a game like GTA at 1080p is perfect, idk why you would ever need more.

Also what do you guys mean by the assembly of the PC?

Also what do you mean by more quality parts? I mean the graphics card gets great reviews, the other parts seem fine and get great reviews, the parts seem very quality to me.

Just asking a lot of questions because I want to make sure this PC is worth it before buying it. Thanks so much guys!

USAFRet · May 13, 2017

MrMitchMan04 :

Assembly:
We've had people here with CyberPower systems where the DVD drive was literally not connected.
Bad overheating...why?...no thermal paste on the fancy (crap) CPU cooler.

Parts:
Bad mismatch - Expensive OC CPU and non-OC capable motherboard.
Abysmal PSU. There are good 600 watt PSUs, and there are 600watt PSU's I wouldn't trust to run a desklamp.
Guess which one might come with a CyberPower system?

You have to look at the totality of the thing. Obviously, not all of them are bad.
However...for the equivalent money, building it yourself gives you a much deeper understanding of how things go together, and how to fix it if things seem off.
Rather than just looking at a black box without a clue of how it went together.

MrMitchMan04 · May 13, 2017

USAFRet :

MrMitchMan04 :

Assembly:
We've had people here with CyberPower systems where the DVD drive was literally not connected.
Bad overheating...why?...no thermal paste on the fancy (crap) CPU cooler.

Parts:
Bad mismatch - Expensive OC CPU and non-OC capable motherboard.
Abysmal PSU. There are good 600 watt PSUs, and there are 600watt PSU's I wouldn't trust to run a desklamp.
Guess which one might come with a CyberPower system?

You have to look at the totality of the thing. Obviously, not all of them are bad.
However...for the equivalent money, building it yourself gives you a much deeper understanding of how things go together, and how to fix it if things seem off.
Rather than just looking at a black box without a clue of how it went together.

If I got this computer would you suggest me putting thermal paste in it right away?

USAFRet · May 13, 2017

MrMitchMan04 :

To redo the thermal paste requires taking most of it apart, depending on which cooler is on it.
If you can do that, you can build your own.

But no...don't assume that you have to redo the thermal paste.

James Mason · May 13, 2017

The actual price Cyberpower spends is closer to this, but still lower because they're buying in bulk to produce many systems.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7400 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($176.44 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Patriot - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($50.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.90 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($199.69 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Zalman - Z1 Neo ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: LEPA - MX-F1 600W ATX Power Supply ($43.49 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($15.89 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I REV 4.2 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Keyboard: Zalman - ZM-K380 Combo Wired Standard Keyboard w/Laser Mouse ($12.48 @ Amazon)
Total: $670.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-13 19:47 EDT-0400

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