Dylan Young :
Specht77 I'm running my i7 2600k at 4.4 with 1.300 with lvl6 llc. I also tried 1.295 with lvl6 llc but it would crash on desktop. Do you reckon the chipped off resistor at the bottom of the cpu is to blame?
Dylan,
There's no short "yes" or "no" answer to your question.
Without knowing precisely which component has been damaged or "chipped off", and without consulting a schematic diagram to determine how that missing component would affect specific circuits in a processor with 1.16
billion transistors, I couldn't speculate. However, integrated circuits are often designed with redundancies and can still sometimes function correctly with an open or missing component. Regardless, since your 2600K is still working, it's lower than average overclocking ability may or may not be related to a missing component.
Keep in mind that no two processors are identical; each processor is unique in voltage tolerance, thermal behavior and overclocking potential, which is often referred to as the "silicon lottery" or luck of the draw. It's possible that your particular CPU is simply in the lower percentile of 2600K samples, which is unfortunate for you. Some people get the good ones, and some people get the not-so-good ones.
As a former 2700K owner, and builder of several overclocked Core i7 and i5 Second Generation Sandy Bridge rigs, the average overclock is about 4.6 GHz. My particular CPU sample required 1.335 Vcore to reach a stable 4.7 GHz overclock at 77°C with a large single tower air cooler. That's just one example; not bad, but only the upper 2% of 2700K's / 2600K's could reach 5.0 GHz at about 1.375 Vcore.
Also, the difference between 1.295 and 1.300 Vcore (5 millivolts or 0.005 volts) typically isn't enough to significantly affect stability. In my previous post I mentioned that when tweaking your processor near it's highest overclock, keep in mind that for an increase of 100 MHz, a corresponding increase of about 50 millivolts (0.050 volts) is needed to maintain stability. If 75 to 100 millivolts or more is needed for the next stable 100 MHz increase, it means your processor is overclocked beyond it's capability. I suggest that you use Vcore increments larger than 0.005, such as 0.025 to more quickly find initial stability at a given clock speed. You can then fine tune Vcore using 10 millivolt (0.010) increments.
Specht77 :
I wouldn't believe blindly those "recommended vcore" and "recommended temps"
One example is 7700k, the max recommended temp from intel is 100ºC, and that "chart" says that 80ºC is too hot for any CPU... While 2600k has a max temp is 72ºC, if you follow the max 80ºC, you will damage your CPU (it probably will turn itself off to prevent damage) Each CPU has their limits...
I have a 2600k since 2011, used it @ 4ghz up to 2015, when I bought a raijintek themis evo...
Since 2015 I'm using it @ 4.6ghz with 1.404v and it's working flawlessly
I agree that 1.492v is too high, specially if you're trying just 4.6ghz
In my opnion, anything below 1.45v is safe for 24/7, but remember also to check for your temps, if it's anything near 70ºC while stress testing I suggest lowering more your vcore (and probably your frequency also)
Specht77,
On behalf of Tom's Moderator Team, welcome aboard!
At the top of all our Forums are "Stickies", which are informative Threads that are permanently "Stuck" in place so they're always available as reference material for everyone's benefit. Near the top of the CPU's Forum you'll see this Sticky:
Intel Temperature Guide -
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1800828/intel-temperature-guide.html
I suggest that you give it a read ... because respectfully, like most users, you are misinformed concerning Intel's Thermal Specifications, which are very confusing at best, so don't feel singled out. Here's why:
Tcase Specifications are
factory only measurements on the surface of the Integrated Heat Spreader, so Tcase is
not Core temperature, which is about 5°C higher on CPU's with a soldered Integrated Heat Spreader. Tcase values are also
calculated based on stock cooler TDP and processor TDP. Cooler models with
different TDP values are packaged with
different TDP processors. Several Generations of Quad Core CPU's at 77, 84, 88 and 95 Watts were packaged with a universal 95 Watt cooler. 6th and 7th Generation i5 and i7 "K" processors are 91 Watts, but the cooler is 130 Watts and is sold separately: Intel’s Skylake Cooler -
http://vr-zone.com/articles/this-is-what-intels-first-cpu-cooler-for-skylake-looks-like/97189.html
Compared below are three Intel processor / cooler combinations with respect to TDP and Tcase Specifications:
Example 1: i7 2700K 95 Watts TDP / Cooler 95 Watts TDP /
Difference 0 Watts / Tcase
72°C.
Example 2: i7 3770K 77 Watts TDP / Cooler 95 Watts TDP /
Difference 18 Watts / Tcase
67°C.
Example 3: i7 6700K 91 Watts TDP / Cooler 130 Watts TDP /
Difference 39 Watts / Tcase
64°C.
The higher the cooler TDP is from the processor TDP, the lower the Tcase Specification, just as when the stock cooler is replaced with a higher TDP aftermarket cooler, Core temperatures are lower.
Tcase is based on different combinations of stock coolers and CPU's, which is why Specifications vary. The examples above suggest the 6700K is less thermally capable than the 2700K, which is misleading, because the 6700K has a higher Throttle temperature (2700K 98°C, 6700K 100°C).
As you're aware, Intel changed the Thermal Specification for 7th Generation Desktop processors from Tcase to Tjunction (Tj Max), which standardizes Desktop and Mobile (laptop) Specifications. Intel's long overdue change signifies that Tj Max has always been the limiting Thermal Specification;
not Tcase. Also, Intel still provides the Tcase Thermal Specification for the 7700K in their Datasheets, and the 6700K and 7700K both have exactly the same Tcase and Tj Max values.
Although Intel's Tcase Thermal Specification for the 2700K / 2600K is 72°C, Intel's Tj Max Specification is 98°C, so once again, Tj Max is the limiting Thermal Specification;
not Tcase. Consequently, operating the 2600K at Core temperatures of 80°C is not exceedingly hot.
Tj Max Specifications vary from 80°C to 105°C. Some processors Throttle at 80°C, while others become unstable over 80°C. Core i 6th and 7th Generation CPU's have Configurable TDP (cTDP) and Scenario Design Power (SDP) which can trigger Throttling as low as 80°C. Although most processors Throttle at 100°C (212°F), it’s not advisable to push your CPU to the thermal limit, just as you wouldn't operate a vehicle with the temperature gauge pegged in the red “hot” zone.
If your hottest Core is within a few degrees of Throttle temperature, your CPU is already too hot. The consensus among highly experienced and well informed system builders and overclockers, is that cooler is better for ultimate stability, performance and longevity. As such, all agree it's wise to observe a reasonable thermal limit below Tj Max. So regardless of your rig's environmental conditions, system configuration, workloads or any other variables,
sustained Core temperatures above 80°C aren't recommended.
Concerning Vcore; as a rule, CPU's become more susceptible to Electromigration with each Die-shrink. The exception is Intel's 14 nanometer Microarchitecture, where advances in FinFET technology have improved voltage tolerance. I realize that some users may consider the Vcore table I posted to be a bit on the conservative side for certain variants. However, since most folks work hard for the money to buy CPU's, (not all of which are created equal), out of respect for their labors, and as a Moderator and author, I can not in good conscience responsibly suggest that it's OK to run their processors at higher than recommended Vcore settings. I'm sure you can appreciate this position.
CT