Can a intel i5 7600k 3.8ghz run Fallout 4 High Res packet

Monksnothome

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Since I'm about to upgrade from amd to intel I planned on getting a intel i5 7600k Kaby lake 3.8ghz and following that upgrade in a few months I also planned on getting a gtx 1070 founders edition. So my question is would this hardware run fallout 4 high resolution packet?
 
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The 1070 should handle the high res pack for fo4. The i5 should also do fairly well though it may dip a bit below 60fps in some areas. Bench's of the 6600k show it to perform similarly to a 4690k and they both generally stay above 60fps. 1% lows drop to low 50's. The extra threading of the i7's hyper threading helps keep it above 60fps.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/2182-fallout-4-cpu-benchmark-huge-performance-difference

Keep in mind that games like fallout 4 and other bethesda games often run on an ingame timer that limits the game to 60fps. There are workarounds where it can be edited and the fps cap lifted but it's tied to the game clock (day/night) to keep certain features of the game running properly. Same with other fo...
I know it's not strictly on-topic, but can I strongly encourage you to consider a Ryzen 5 1600 build instead of an i5.

By the time you get the 7600K, a overclockable motherboard and a cooler you're actually spending a little more than a Ryzen 5 1600 + B350 board. The Ryzen can OC to 3.8ish Ghz on the stock cooler with a cheap mobo. While an overclocked i5 will get better averages in some games, we're already seeing a number of games where the 1% and 0.1% lows are very poor on i5s, indicating that 4 threads are sometimes not enough. That trend is likely to continue.

It's probably worth starting a different thread with your budget and goals for your build. You should get some great suggestions. You can ask the i5 vs Ryzen 5 question. I suspect you'll see most people recommending Ryzen.

Anyway - to your original question the recommended requirements for that texture pack are absurd, a 6 core 12 thread 5820K + a GTX 1080. HardOCP did a review on a 6700K and found it was playable on mid-range GPUs. So the 1070 should have no problem. I can't find any CPU benchmarks, though the 6700K is clearly sufficient. Whether the i5 can handle it well I can't really say. I think it will be playable, at least. The Ryzen 5 is much more comparable to a 5820K, so if the game does actually scale up to 12 threads, Ryzen is going to handle that better in theory. But I don't the game or the hardware myself, and without reputable benchmarks, it's all speculation.
 

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The I5 still performs better than the Ryzen 5 though...
 

Gamers Nexus now recommend the Ryzen 5 over the i5 even for a pure gaming machine: http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2875-amd-r5-1600x-1500x-review-fading-i5-argument/page-4
Most (though not all) experienced builders here on the forum would recommend the same. You can make a solid argument for either CPU, but as I see it the fact that i5s are running at close to 100% on all cores under CPU heavy gaming loads, along with the relatively poor minimum FPS we're already seeing in some games, is a good indication that the era where 4 fast threads are sufficient for high end gaming is quickly coming to an end. With a GTX 1070 it's more or less a wash between the CPUs right now anyway, but if you want a GPU upgrade in 2-3 years, there's good evidence to suggest that the Ryzen 5 will hold up much better over time.

Anyway - I don't want to take this thread off-topic so I'll bow out here.

OP -> can I encourage you to use the "new build" sticky to start a new thread for your specific build: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/353572-31-build-upgrade-advice
People on the forums here are really good at sniffing out bargains and squeezing out the best possible performance for your dollars and preferences.
 

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rhysiam is right. Currently, the i5 is not worth getting anymore, games have already started using more than 4 threads, and this has resulted in lower 1% and 0.1% min frame rates in many games for 4 thread CPUs.
Especially the 7600k as it requires a beefy cooler and a Z motherboard to reach its potential, at that point, it would be smarter to step up to an i7. So for 7600k you should step up to a cheaper motherboard, probably stock cooler and a 7700, and for all other i5 you would be better off with an R5 which has 8 or 16 threads, the Ryzen 5 has hyperthreading so it is basically like a slower i7.

For fallout 4 with high res pack, you would be better off with a Ryzen 1600 as it has 6 cores so get better min frames and minimise stutter.
 
Some fallout 4 bench's I ran across.

http://www.pcgamer.com/the-amd-ryzen-7-review/5/
https://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2017/04/11/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-review/5
http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/2182-fallout-4-cpu-benchmark-huge-performance-difference

According to that gamersnexus link, the 7600k stock had similar min fps to the r5 1600x oc'd and higher average fps by a good lead in bf1. TW warhammer, same thing. Watchdogs 2, same thing. Metro last light the ryzen had a clear advantage finally. Ashes, they were almost identical. Maybe based on price but otherwise it seems odd to say the i5 has a 'fading grasp' when it performed better on 3/5 games listed and tied with ryzen on one of them.

As for the high res pack, high res is a gpu load. No gpu was listed in the current system to hold over until upgrading to the 1070. If relying on the integrated graphics until the 1070 purchase then it's almost a no brainer, the intel chips have igpu's and ryzen doesn't. You'll need a gpu for ryzen to do anything with it. The integrated graphics on the intel chips are functional for a variety of things, but not for gaming really and a high res pack would only make matters worse. The cpu performance ryzen vs intel isn't going to be determined based on a resolution upgrade (higher quality in game images), that's the gpu's job.

Others aren't wrong, some games generally do perform better thank to hyper threading on an i7, bf1 being one of them. Many benchmarks are difficult to achieve for bf1 since most people play in multiplayer and most benchmarks aren't done in that environment. It's difficult to repeat the data and get confirmed results because each run through isn't perfectly the same as the last. Also any improvements made via game updates or ryzen bios updates may be missed, it's a lot of work benchmarking games. They can't go back and retest each and every game every time a change is made which may or may not affect fps.

Hardocp's review of the high res pack. Notice the concentration on gpu performance, not cpu.
https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/02/12/fallout_4_high_resolution_texture_pack_review/13
 

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Lets say if i was to keep the intel i5 for like around a year or so then upgrade to a i7 would that be a good choice because honestly I want to stick with Intel instead of staying with AMD.
 
The 1070 should handle the high res pack for fo4. The i5 should also do fairly well though it may dip a bit below 60fps in some areas. Bench's of the 6600k show it to perform similarly to a 4690k and they both generally stay above 60fps. 1% lows drop to low 50's. The extra threading of the i7's hyper threading helps keep it above 60fps.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/2182-fallout-4-cpu-benchmark-huge-performance-difference

Keep in mind that games like fallout 4 and other bethesda games often run on an ingame timer that limits the game to 60fps. There are workarounds where it can be edited and the fps cap lifted but it's tied to the game clock (day/night) to keep certain features of the game running properly. Same with other fo games and skyrim. Hard to get decent benchmarks, many are from various youtubers who admit their ryzen rigs weren't optimized or what have you so it makes their findings a little questionable.

There have also apparently been comments around that Bethesda will work more closely with amd to improve performance on ryzen/vega hardware. Sort of an acknowledgement maybe that ryzen isn't handling their games all that well if they're making a concentrated effort to improve them for particular hardware.
 
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