Need with RAM corresponding to Motherboards

Blabber123 · May 17, 2017

Currently, this below is my build. This board shows 2933 as the maximum for my RAM's clock speed. I have a few questions, with this Ryzen build, will this get me that extra performance I've been hearing about? How much of a difference does clock speed make? Can I overclock this RAM to 3200? This is my first build and I want to be sure it's efficient.

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($78.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($118.89 @ Jet)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8GB Gaming 8G Video Card ($220.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($58.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($47.78 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $714.42

kanewolf · May 17, 2017

Since you only bought DDR4-3000 RAM, even the manufacturer doesn't believe it will do 3200. Ryzen is still very unstable ever with qualified RAM. I highly doubt you will get 3200.

Karadjgne · May 17, 2017

The G-skill 4 don't use the Samsung B-die, they use SkHynix (I believe, haven't been able to verify that), only the G-skill rip Jaws V and the Trident Z series have had any success at reaching 3200 or better. Just about everyone, especially the SkHynix, have pretty much been stuck at 2933 at best. Last I heard, amd was furiously working on a fix for this, and you can be pretty sure that SkHynix, Micron and the rest are looking into that as well. Not sure when the fix will be done, but there's one coming, you'll just have to be patient, its inherent in any new architecture that there'll be bugs, this is just the latest.

Blabber123 · May 17, 2017

Karadjgne :

Thank you for the reply, so to just ask a simple, final question, am I going to notice much of a difference at 2933?

Karadjgne · May 18, 2017

Between 2933 and 3000? Absolutely not. I'm sure the brain can subconsciously 'think' in terms of those speeds, but there's nothing you can consciously do that'll even come close. It'd be like saving 1 second on 2x 1 hr renders done simultaneously on 2x machines with identical hardware and settings except for the ram.
Even with a bump to 3200ish with OC (if the ram allows and is stable) you'd still only be looking at @ 1-3% increase in performance. Not something honestly missed or needed.
If you've got 2933 stable, with a decent OC on the cpu, you are fine. When amd finally gets its ducks in a row and fixes the memory bugs, you could try some OC, you might see a difference as you'll have a general base to work from, but when you are pushing 300 fps in cs:go, an extra 10fps is going to mean exactly nothing, same if you are running 59fps on your favorite game, getting 60fps will do you nothing.
1Hz, is 1 sine wave per second. 1KHz is 1000 sine waves per second. 1MHz is 1 Million sine waves per second. So 2933 MHz is 2 Billion 933 Million sine waves in a second. And you want to tell if 77 million sine waves in a second will make a noticeable difference?

Be kinda like you standing on a hair and asking if you looked taller.

Blabber123 · May 19, 2017

Karadjgne :

Between 2933 and 3000? Absolutely not. I'm sure the brain can subconsciously 'think' in terms of those speeds, but there's nothing you can consciously do that'll even come close. It'd be like saving 1 second on 2x 1 hr renders done simultaneously on 2x machines with identical hardware and settings except for the ram.
Even with a bump to 3200ish with OC (if the ram allows and is stable) you'd still only be looking at @ 1-3% increase in performance. Not something honestly missed or needed.
If you've got 2933 stable, with a decent OC on the cpu, you are fine. When amd finally gets its ducks in a row and fixes the memory bugs, you could try some OC, you might see a difference as you'll have a general base to work from, but when you are pushing 300 fps in cs:go, an extra 10fps is going to mean exactly nothing, same if you are running 59fps on your favorite game, getting 60fps will do you nothing.
1Hz, is 1 sine wave per second. 1KHz is 1000 sine waves per second. 1MHz is 1 Million sine waves per second. So 2933 MHz is 2 Billion 933 Million sine waves in a second. And you want to tell if 77 million sine waves in a second will make a noticeable difference?

Be kinda like you standing on a hair and asking if you looked taller.

Thank you once again for the reply and advice! One last question, just to cover all the bases. So if I've got 2933 stable, WITHOUT a decent CPU overclock, will I still be fine? I don't mean to be so question-y, I just want to cover every base.

Karadjgne · May 19, 2017

It runs, it's stable (assumption), and it's not burning up or breaking down. Sounds like a winner. You'll OC when ya feel like it, play if ya don't, up to you, but I don't see any issues.

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