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Okay so being that this is my first build I don't have a vast amount of knowledge on any better alternative parts that would be better options in the long run, and so I come to you guys for suggestions.

Here is my current build - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yQPgyf
Price range - $900-$1250

I would like to know:
- Parts that are performance upgrades while maintaining the same price range
- Parts that are slight performance downgrades but cheaper/more bang for my buck

Side notes:
- I really like the red and black color scheme
- I really like the design of the that case (P400) however I am completely open to any suggestions
- The last note was a lie, not really ANY suggestions. I can't stand cases with foam in the front of the case behind a metal fence of sorts (don't know what to call it). This is my current case and I can not stand it https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147122
- I don't like the brushed plastic with an aluminum appearance as featured on the Phanteks Enthoo Pro.

*Update: I also forgot to mention I already have the peripherals, OS, and optical drive.
**Update: Should also maybe mention I already have 8gb(2x4) of corsair vengeance ram, not sure if that would change anything with maybe just buying 2 more sticks of that. Who knows, is it still good?
 
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Ryzen alternative. Bit less single core performance but a lot more multicore performance.
Could potentially add an aftermarket cooler if you want to overclock it over 3.8GHz

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($217.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($107.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($134.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED...
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Ryzen alternative. Bit less single core performance but a lot more multicore performance.
Could potentially add an aftermarket cooler if you want to overclock it over 3.8GHz

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($217.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($107.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($134.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($127.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.39 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1128.02
 
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I didn't look too much into Ryzen but being that i'm pretty much a noob on this topic what is the pros/cons of higher multicore and lesser single core performance?
 
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Also a topic I've run into a few times recently is the fact i'm only going to be gaming in 1080p and have no plans to move up to 1440p any time soon. Would you say i'd be better off saving the $100 bucks and just going for a 1060 under those circumstances or just stick with the 1070?
 
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In older and less optimized games single threaded speed is generally better while in newer and better optimized games (triple a games) more threads often means better performance. Better multithreaded performance also means you can run a lot more stuff like spotify, steam, origin, chrome, etc in the background without it affecting your gaming performance. Also Ryzen cpus are known to have better frame times than i5 which means smoother gameplay with less microstutter. In theory, the Ryzen 1600 has close to twice the multithreaded performance of the 7600k while the 7600k only has 20% better single threaded performance over the 1600 (both non overclocked).
 
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I think it would be a good idea to get the 1070. But if you want to save some cash you should go for the RX 580 8g over the gtx 1060.
 
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when ur budget allows it, stick with it. u would have to get a new GPU in 2 years if u r gonna get a 1060. 1070 will make that 3 years. even the recently released AAA games like Mass effect andromeda, wildlands r demanding and cant push more than 120fps if its a 144hz monitor.
 
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After some more research and your help I will definitely be going for the Ryzen. Also have decided on going with the 1070, I guess it doesn't make since to cut a whole year off of my gpu's lifetime over $120. Thanks for all the help! :)
 
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Yeah I have decided to stick with the 1070. Thanks for the manufacturer suggestion, as of right now I'm pretty sure I'll get the PNY! :)
 
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Also one last question, Would it be worth it the spend an extra $40 for the 1600X or would it be best just to stick with the 1600?

Update to that - it would actually be $70 more because there is a promo on jet.com right now through august 1st the you can get a 1600 for $188 so I'm guessing its most likely not worth it for the 10% higher clock speeds. However I'm new to this so i'll let you be the judge.

Update 2 - Nevermind I'm stupid I can use the promo for the 1600X as well bringing the price down the $220.
 
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