How is my build?

petersch520

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Here are the specs:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C7nwJV
My goals for this gaming rig

-Run all games maxed out on 1080p (including BF4 and crysis 3)
-Having a budget around $1200
-Do not care about running games on 2k-4k monitors or SLI
-will probably want to overclock
-virtual reality ready

Any tweaks you guys see that could make this budget cheaper but fulfill the goals above would be excellent .

Thank you

 
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What a mess...

Out of the 2 psus quality wise (since that was the criteria) the RMx is better, not by much, but it is. As far as wattage goes, that depends on op's needs. For a low-mid OC the 550w is fine, it'll only add @50w (give or take) to psu draw, and thats only at maximum outputs under stress tests etc. For regular gaming habits, 550w will be fine. If Op plans to really push the OC (not something advisable even with an H7) then you'd be looking at closer to 100w added to the cpu, so in that case, the 650w would make more sense. No point in maxing out power draws on the psu, it's inefficient.

The H7 is superior in every way to the hyper212 evo. Not only shorter (fits in a lot more cases), does outperform the 212, has no ram...
If it were me, here's what I'd do.

Since you plan to overclock, go with a better quality PSU. Here's a nice one https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2F85314153

And have a look at this CPU cooler - Cryorig H7 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565&cm_re=cryorig_H7-_-13C-000U-00005-_-Product The EVO and the H7 supposedly perform about the same, but in my opinion, the H7 looks much nicer. I have this cooler myself, and it's a great cooler. The EVO is nice too, so if you're happy, stick with that. :)

Also, if you can do so, go with at least 16GB of RAM.

Here's a nicer case, but yeah, it's more expensive too. :) https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811854019&cm_re=enthoo_pro_m-_-11-854-019-_-Product

Also, why do you have 2 CD/DVD drives listed?

Other than that, you should have yourself a fine pc!

Best of luck with the build.



 

adiec

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i'd look at the r5 1600 and a b350 motherboard , go with the CX550M (not green labelled/text) , go with the crucial mx300 525gb ssd, use a bit of the money you have saved to get a better case (corsair or nzxt) , why do you require to optical drives?

also if you're wanting to save money https://www.howtogeek.com/244678/you-dont-need-a-product-key-to-install-and-use-windows-10/ (buy later)

edit: with the r5 1600 you won't require an aftermarket cooler unless you plan to have a decent overclock.
 

Rexper

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" go with a better quality PSU"
The G3 is hardly better than te RMx. Both are top quality units. Unless OP changed the list after you commented..

"The EVO and the H7 supposedly perform about the same"
Definitely not. The H7 easily beats the EVO in performance and has less compatibility issues.

'EVO is nice too,"
Not really. Similar performance + better aesthetics + better compatibility can be obtained for cheaper with the Cryorig M9i.

"go with at least 16GB of RAM."
Why atleast? 16GB of ram will be enough for years to come in gaming. Even 8gb is perfectly suitable for most of todays games.

For OP, I recommend atleast 1tb of hard drive space, even if that means downgrading SSD to ~250GB and adding a 1tb hard drive. Also, the MX300 series ssds are of better value than the 850 evos; larger capacity, normally cheaper, and similar real world performance for an average gaming consumer.
 


 

adiec

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well lets be realistic :

16gb if you're going 1440p ultra plus streaming with AAA games
5% is neither here nor there in temp terms
as for the ssd don't spend over $150 for 500gb-550gb ( the majority play 1 perhaps 2 games until we get bored and find a new game and it only offers quicker loading times - if you're playing against 63 people on bf 1 with ssd's and you have an hdd they are waiting for you and vice versa . spend your cash on a top end cpu and gpu and buy yourself a few coloured lights to look at whilst your game loads haha :p
 

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This could argue for a while so I won't even bother. Most of these points have the same conclusion anyways. OP can decide base on different points of views.

I just wanted to note pretty much any modern system with a single GPU will be fine with 550w of a good quality unit, even with overclocking. For example a build consisting with an overclocked i7 7700k (currently the strongest CPU for gaming) and GTX 1080ti (one of the top performing GPUs) outputs ~334w at load, probable more (under 100w more) if a system consists of multiple HDDs, optical rives, case fans, etc. source.
 

adiec

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just on the psu - you can go as low as 450w decent psu and be ok 550 is probably the optimum and 650 i would suggest for sli/xfire but thats just me personally .
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($217.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($78.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.93 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PNY - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB XLR8 Video Card ($379.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($23.90 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($87.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1069.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-21 00:51 EDT-0400

along with is https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZBZ2FT/aoc-monitor-g2460pf for monitor,
if u can wait, get a 1070 competitor from AMD vega. launches next month i think.

u if stick to 1070 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rkphP6/asus-monitor-vg248qe
 


I agree with you that a 550W PSU would be fine. I never said it wouldn't. I was simply saying, that if it were me, I would go with the one I selected. Plus, it's currently cheaper (as of this posting) by a few dollars. So really, why not go for it? This way, if he did decide to add another GTX 1070 in the future, he would have a slightly beefier PSU.

You offered helpful advice to the OP with your suggestions. I tried to do the same. I didn't mean for you to think I was arguing with you, and that you were wrong. Not at all. If we all agreed with the same thing, it would be boring around here, right? :p

 

Karadjgne

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What a mess...

Out of the 2 psus quality wise (since that was the criteria) the RMx is better, not by much, but it is. As far as wattage goes, that depends on op's needs. For a low-mid OC the 550w is fine, it'll only add @50w (give or take) to psu draw, and thats only at maximum outputs under stress tests etc. For regular gaming habits, 550w will be fine. If Op plans to really push the OC (not something advisable even with an H7) then you'd be looking at closer to 100w added to the cpu, so in that case, the 650w would make more sense. No point in maxing out power draws on the psu, it's inefficient.

The H7 is superior in every way to the hyper212 evo. Not only shorter (fits in a lot more cases), does outperform the 212, has no ram clearance issues etc, but has a vastly superior mounting system. The hyper212's mount is abysmal, not easy to install and quite easy to screw up. I personally quit recommending the 212 series years ago, the H7 or even the deepcool Gammax 400 being far better options.

Windows will work fine on 8Gb. As a minimum recommendation for gaming. However, there's plenty of the more intense games that are making good use of higher ram, some clearing 12Gb of use, especially with higher end cpus combined with higher end gpus. For the price of this build and its potential, 8Gb would be closer to being a potential bottleneck than any other component. 16Gb might be over the top, but it's really the best option in dual channel capabilities.

SSD. Bigger SSDs most always have better speeds, the 500+ being marginally better than the smaller 250+, so there's that. As far as storage size goes vrs performance, that's a toss up. Anything run through the OS will be run at SSD speeds, not the hdd speed. It all gets cached on the SSD through Windows temp folders. So makes little difference to a game stored on the hdd, with its launcher run through Windows. How much of a difference an SSD makes depends entirely on the game, some see considerable gains, others little, and it's more than just zone loading or waiting times, anything used by the game in repetition is also affected, so things like a gun or camo, clouds, grass etc is pulled from the SSD temp cache, not the hdd. But, games are not the only thing stored on pc's, there's also media like photos, music, videos etc that eat up a lot of space. Those files are best kept on hdd.
A single large SSD might see some performance gains, but the offshoot is shortened lifespan with all the extra r/w that that entails vrs having a hdd that'll absorb much of the temp folders and larger files that don't see common usage.

Last of this rant : Intel vrs Amd. Personally, I'd be more inclined to go with Amd. You are now looking at games requiring a 4core minimum. Many games, such as gta:V, BF1, BF4, Starwars Battlefront, any mmorpg with high server drops etc can and do make use of multiple threads, 8 isn't uncommon. While it may or may not make much of a difference, the option is there. The R5 1600 is equitable in performance to a i7-4790k for about the same price as an i5, at stock speeds. With OC and fast ram, it gets closer to the i7-7700k and beats the i7 in just about all the other multiple thread applications, coming close to double its performance in some. And AM4 is brand new, with the i5-7600k you have only one upgrade, the i7-7700k, with AM4, you are looking at at least 3 options just in this generation, and probably 3-4 more in the next generation of cpus. For as good as the i5 is, it's really just a very big carrot, on a very short stick, it's not a cpu id actually recommend now, it's going to be a limiting factor with just 4 threads.
 
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