Ryzen 5 1400 + SSD vs. Ryzen 5 1600

LoganLives · May 20, 2017

Hi,

I'm planning to build a new PC from zero, mainly for running architecture softwares such as autocad, revit, civil 3D.

I've decided to go with a GPU RX550 (4Gb) and 8Gb (2x4) RAM, but I still haven't decided about the CPU. I'm in doubt between taking the Ryzen 5 1400 or the 1600, cause to have money for the last one I would have to drop my SSD and go with just an HD instead. Other possibility would be to get just the SSD (120Gb) and buy a external HD in the future.

Can anyone tell me the best choice?

(ps: I live in Brazil, the price of stuff here is very different, so don't use yours as parameters)

Thanks.

noobwithpc · May 21, 2017

RX 550 is not very good graphics, GT 1030 is better and costs less, even if it doesn't have 4 gigabytes of RAM. I will go with Ryzen 5 1600, RX 460 or RX 560 and Seagate Barracuda 1 TB hard drive, because speed of read and write is about 220 MB/s, which is very good for hard drive.

Lehan123456789 · May 21, 2017

LoganLives :

I am not sure if this pricing will work, however I would recomend either getting a ryzen 5 1400 (non-x) and a RX560/GTX1050 and just a HDD (upgrading to an SSD later) or getting a 1400 with the ssd

Hope this helps!

LoganLives · May 21, 2017

noobwithpc :

Yeah, i've decided to get the 1050ti 4gb instead, everyone seems to think rx550 sucks.

About the barracuda, I see a lot of people here in the foruns saying bad things about it, they say it brokes easily. Do you think that too?

Thanks for helping!

LoganLives · May 21, 2017

Lehan123456789 :

I've given up the SSD for now, unfortunetely.. so I have the money for the ryzen 5 1600!

About the GPU, I'm thinking about going with the gtx 1050ti, is it good? Does it works well with ryzen and a Gigabyte GA-AB350M-D3H, AM4 Chipset AMD B350 motherboard?

Thanks a lot

noobwithpc · May 21, 2017

LoganLives :

Yes, 1050 ti works well with Ryzen and yes, Seagates brokes better than Western Digitals. That's because Seagates are destroying themselves after they wake up from being idle. I have ridden that shutting down hard drives can be somehow turned off and Seagates can live longer. But if you compare 1TB Western Digital Blue and 1TB Seagate Barracuda, Barracuda is twice as faster, smaller, generates less heat and needs less power, because it has one platter and Blue has two platters, so it is much better even if it brokes easier, I think. My dad has Seagate 500 GB hard drive for 8 years and it still works without any problem.

LoganLives · May 21, 2017

noobwithpc :

LoganLives :

Yes, 1050 ti works well with Ryzen and yes, Seagates brokes better than Western Digitals. That's because Seagates are destroying themselves after they wake up from being idle. I have ridden that shutting down hard drives can be somehow turned off and Seagates can live longer. But if you compare 1TB Western Digital Blue and 1TB Seagate Barracuda, Barracuda is twice as faster, smaller, generates less heat and needs less power, because it has one platter and Blue has two platters, so it is much better even if it brokes easier, I think. My dad has Seagate 500 GB hard drive for 8 years and it still works without any problem.

Ah, I see. Cool then, i'll get the 1050ti and the Barracuda. Thanks a lot!

dontlistentome · May 21, 2017

You didn't mention the power supply, don't get a cheap one. Don't get an unknown brand, get a brand with a good reputation. Also, if you can, get a bit more capability than you need. For instance, even if the videocard you buy does not require a 6 pin pci-ex connector, it would be wise to get a power supply with two 6+2 pin pci-ex. The reason is that if someday you want to upgrade that card, having those connectors will give you many more options on what you can use without requiring you to buy a new power supply.

The other thing I wanted to say is get an SSD as soon as possible. More than the videocard, the SSD will make a difference. You mention work software, not games. I doubt you will notice much difference in Autocad between a 1030 and a 1050 Ti, but you will notice a difference between an SSD and a mechanical hard drive no matter how you use the computer.

Of course, if you think you might want to do some gaming after all, you will want the better card. To sum it up, if it were my choice I'd get the 1400, the 1030 or 550 whichever costs less, and spend as much as possible on the fastest SSD I could get and on a good power supply.

noobwithpc · May 21, 2017

dontlistentome :

But there's problem with Ryzen 1400, GTX 1030 or RX 550 and SSD: They aren't worth it. Ryzen 1600 is much better than 1400 for few bucks, no matter which country you live, low-end graphics cards costs twice as less but they are four times worse than GT 1050 ti and SSDs are three times faster but eight times smaller for same price as HDD. In future, SSDs will be more worth it, but for now HDD is just bit better. Spending more on good PSU is matter of course. Bad PSU can explode and kill everything with it, processor, graphics, motherboard and ram.

LoganLives · May 21, 2017

dontlistentome :

Indeed I forgot to mention the power supply: Cougar VTE 500 80+ bronze PFC active, CGR BS-500. It has 2 x 8(6+2) pins pci-ex, according to store's website. Is it good? I was thinking about a Corsair CX430, but it doesn't seem to have these pins you said.

About the SSD, is there much difference between the main brands? Could you recommend me a good one with low price?

Thanks a lot for the help

Lehan123456789 · May 22, 2017

LoganLives :

Sorry for the fact that there are now 3 people voicing their opinions, however it is probably a good thing for the sake of completeness. I personally think that you should get a R5 1400, a Cx500 V3 would be fine, and a 120gb ssd (most of them are the same speed unless they are very old) and perhaps an upgrade on your GPU to a 1050/ti, or something used (you can get great deals on used sites like eBay, Gumtree, craigslist etc.). Something like a used R9 280x would be quite powerful and relatively cheap.
I couldn't find anything about the Couger VTE power supply, however I know that the Cx500 V3 is very good, and quite cheap, with all the connectors you need.

Hope this helps!

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