2400mhz or 3200mhz on ryzen

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Hi guys, im currently building a gaming computer and i thought well since ryzen gain more performance when being fed with higher memory. I was hoping you could help me determine which one to get. The g.skill ripjaws v(2x8) 2400 = $132, while the g.skill trident z rgb (2x8) 3200=$170.

the lowest 8gb 2400 i see the is kingston hyper furyx (2400) = $62/stick

The things im looking at are:
ryzen 1600
b350 mobo (still looking for which one to get)
16gb of ram
rx 570/580 since i play at 1080 60hz


Hoping you guys could help me out. Thanks
 
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3200mhz CL16 is most commonly hynix IC ram, which often maxes out around 2933mhz on ryzen systems sometimes with higher timings than the XMP profile to make it stable. I would look for 3000mhz CL14 or 3200mhz CL15 15-15-15-35 or something like that, it will be more expensive. If 3200 CL16 is all you can afford it should do fine but just now it likely wont be stable at...
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ok ill go with the 3200 but almost all vendors near me sells the C16 for the example (f4-3200C14d-16gtz) parts, are those ok?
i read somewhere that they can only run at 2933 in some mobos
 
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hi there, if i may ask, should i worry too much about the latency of the ram sticks? or can they be fix with software update?
 
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Don't worry much about latency, speed is more valuable for Ryzen.
 
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3200mhz CL16 is most commonly hynix IC ram, which often maxes out around 2933mhz on ryzen systems sometimes with higher timings than the XMP profile to make it stable. I would look for 3000mhz CL14 or 3200mhz CL15 15-15-15-35 or something like that, it will be more expensive. If 3200 CL16 is all you can afford it should do fine but just now it likely wont be stable at 3200mhz CL16 and you may have to play with the speed and timings manually to get it to boot and run stable.
 
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unfortunately i cant find a vendor here that sells those but im pretty sure it cost around $240 where im from hahaha its to OP
 
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Speed is more valuable and the 3000mhz+ ram with low timings are likely to achieve higher speeds since they are typically using samsung IC's which seems to work much better with ryzen in tests I have seen, all of those flare x kits are samsung b die. One of the only ways to tell what IC's a ram stick is using is to look at speed and timings, or take the heat spreader off.
 
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I tried to find some boards like the msi tomahawk and the asrock b350 gaming k4 doesn't have F4-3200C16D-16GTZB on their list although this time i saw a support for 3200 for the 3200 gskill rgb C14
 
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3200mhz C14 is likely samsung a die or b die, those are typically the sticks that work best with ryzen.
 
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Thanks dunlop, ill prioritize to look for 3000 C14 or the 3200 C15 but if all things fail ill get the 3200 C16. just to be clear, 2400mhz if possible to oc it to 2667 is out of the box or no longer a valid option for gaming? the video on linustechtips made me confused hahaha
 
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