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Indra4523

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Hello all
1600x
B350m mortar
3200mhz ram set to 2933 I can't get it to boot to 32
Cryorig h5 ultimate tower cooler

I'm very happy with the system. I clocked it stable at 3.85ghz with 1.275 v prime 95 for 90 min. When I pushed to 3.9 it required quite a big bump in vcore 1.33. It ran stable prime 95 for 2 hours but then received 1 error on core 12 thus shutting it completely down. I did not show a big vdroop or drop in hw monitor. Question is do you think I need to push the v higher a little or finesse the llc I had it set to mode 3 I believe. I believe my drop at load was to 1.308
 
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I would say just a little glitch, probably in software, but it could be the change over in test.

Another faster way to test is to download IBT: http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4965-intelburntest.html

apparently 20 mins of IBT is equivalent to 2 hours of prime95, however, I still run both to be sure, if you decide to try it, set it up for 50 passes on standard settings, only takes about 15...

Seanie280672

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As long as your Temps are OK, then yes you can raise the vcore some more, try 1.35v, also tighten llc to level 2, you don't want any droop at all, how about your cpu nb voltage, what is that at? It's recommended even by amd that you raise this too 1.100v, it helps stabilise Overclocking and ram Overclocking, the mortar is a great board.

Just one final thing, is your bios up to date.
 

Indra4523

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Hey seanie thanks for the reply. My temps were all good I never went above 65 c actual temp. As far as any nb tweaks I haven't tried any yet. When I get home I'll try those setting and let you know. I'm also on bios 1.4 it's the latest one as of 2 weeks ago. Also I did bump up my v core to 1.385 with 3.95 ghz it ran stable for 2 hours. I wanna see what I can get but think ultimately I will end up at 3.8 so I don't have to push my ware. I just wanna see what I got though.
 

Seanie280672

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I run my 1700 R7 at 3.9ghz 24/7 at 1.375v, with ram at 3200mhz and nb at 1.100v, llc level 2 on my msi mortar, I currently have an msi x370 gaming pro carbon which needs exactly the same voltages to run the same speeds, but llc seems to work slightly different on the x370, I need level 4 for the cpu and level 5 for the nb on that board, also my chip seems to run hotter on the x370 everyone will tell you the x370s are better than the b350s, but so far in my experience, this isn't true. 59oC was the max of my cpu on the b350, 63oC is the max Temps I'm hitting on the x370 with exactly the same equipment right down to the thermal paste. Thinking of going back to my b350.
 

Indra4523

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Hey seanie sorry I have not replied back until now. I have been busy. I have got my nb set to 1.1 now with vcore at 1.3625 and a frequency of 3900. Llc of mode 1 I have done a hand full of p95 passes of 60 to 90 min. I'm in the process of doing a 2 hour run. At least now that I have the time. So far so good. I appreciate your help. One last thing though. Is mode 1 the minimum level or maximum level setting for llc in the msi bios I have not been able to find a straight answer. I am getting a vboost to 1.376 from 1.3625 under load every now and again. Most of the time it is settled at 1.368
 

Seanie280672

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Yes LLC is the tightest, I was going to mention that, LLC 1 actually forces up the vcore slightly under stress, thats why I went for LLC 2 which seemed to hold the vcore closer to what I actually set, LLC 8 being the loosest, ie loads of droop, not really helping much.

You too have got a pretty golden chip there, how are your temps ? are you going to try for 4ghz ?

If you try for 4ghz, try something quick and easy like Cinebench, a black screen is insta-crash, if you need stupid amounts of volateg for 4ghz just to run Cinebench, just back off back down to 3.9ghz, make sure you have adequate cooling, keep an eye on your temps, and dont go above 1.4v to stay in the safe range, of course once again, depending on your temps.
 

Indra4523

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Yeah I was going to try 4ghz my temps are pretty good I think most of the time during load they are at 60c with an occasional spike to 64 is the max. I'm pretty impressed with cryorig. I think I am going to try and dial in my 3.9 ghz oc so I know my setting and then go for 4.0.
 

Seanie280672

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Ive just read your 1st post again, I see you've needed quite a big voltage jump to get to 3.9ghz, that may be your limit, but its worth a try.
 

Indra4523

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Hey I just experienced a dip in mhz on all cores from 3899 to 3725 for a fraction of a second I looked at the prime 95 and this happen just as one test passed and another began around the 2 hour mark. Nothing else fluctuated like vcore or temps or cpu usage. Is that still a sign of instability or just a byproduct of changing tests in prime
 

Seanie280672

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I would say just a little glitch, probably in software, but it could be the change over in test.

Another faster way to test is to download IBT: http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4965-intelburntest.html

apparently 20 mins of IBT is equivalent to 2 hours of prime95, however, I still run both to be sure, if you decide to try it, set it up for 50 passes on standard settings, only takes about 15 mins to run, eventually you will want to set this to 20-25 passes of max settings which will take a couple of hours to run, but will also test all of your ram.

One nice thing about this, is it will start on what it calls the freeze test, then it will really fire up and hit your CPU hard, then freeze test again then again hit your CPU hard, so on so forth, it does it very quickly, only about 10-15 seconds at the most between each test on standard settings and about 10-15mins between each test on max settings, you can watch your cores, see if the speed goes up and down between each freeze etc and you will also see your temps going up and down.

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