i5 6600k Streaming/Recording performance.

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BoondockSaint080

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I keep having issues recording my games on my i5 6600k oc'd to 3.9 ghz (well aware it can go higher but overvolting isn't on my agenda). When i look up what people say about the i5's abilities in terms of recording and video editing, I keep seeing posts about how it can accomplish these tasks with ease, and that something like a 6800k is overkill, yet I'm having so much trouble using in a to record my footage. Is there a general overestimation of this processor's abilities? I've no enormous amount of experience in software, but when it can't achieve 720p 30fps on R6 Siege at a bitrate of 3000kb/s using a 264x encoder, something MUST be wrong with my pc, right?
 
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264 is cpu intensive , and for what i have read the suggested cpu for gaming/streaming is an i7 or now the ryzen lineup seems to be the way to go for that job.
 
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out of curiosity, it seems that the price to performance ratio is much more favorable on Ryzen's end, and therefore i see no reason that they're not wiping the floors with intel, yet i have only seen hate for Ryzen. Is there a critical downfall or disadvantage to Ryzen?

 
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Absolutely none, Ryzen are great price performance are the best way to go imo for gaming/streaming, there are fps differences but are marginal, so right now i would go ryzen if i was to build a new pc.
 
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The only thing wrong with your PC is probably that it has only 4 threads. There is a general overestimation of the performance of intel i5 CPUs. It stems from the era that they were the sole contenders in mid-range, that is not the case anymore.

The 6600k is OK for gaming, it has less smooth performance than the i7 because of its limited threads which cause more frame time variations, but it does alright overall. However, if you throw in anything other than "pure gaming on a clean install of windows", the Ryzen 1600 has a very noticeable advantage over the i5 lineup.

You might be able to use specific software and a fast SSD to improve recording performance, or you might be able to record with acceptable performance in some games. But if you want a consistently problem-free recording and streaming in every game, a 4 thread processor is not the tool for the job.
 
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(It's the original poster, mobile doesn't let me reply if I'm not signed out) Would would you go with an i7 6800k or an equal ryzen counterpart for my purposes. An i7 would do the job, but if I'm gonna give up an i5, id rather spend a little more and get 1080p 60fps footage or something up there in terms of performance? I'd rather avoid a 6700k due to how close in performance it is to my 6600k, unless you can justify it.

 
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Although I'm not making a new PC, Skylake is not for me as far as I'm concerned, and I'm going to end up flipping my motherboard and cpu cooler as well. Would you go Broadwell-e or Ryzen if you were me?
 
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Ryzen would be cheaper, Broadwell-e if you really need the pci lanes for expansion cards like multiple sli or fast ssd , but for budget Ryzen would be better specially if you dont plan on 3 or 4 way sli.
 
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I don't think you need to upgrade. But, How much RAM do you have? And, Do you have a hard drive dedicated for the recordings to go to that you're not running software/games off of?

You can try OBS since it's free:
https://obsproject.com/
And here's how to set it up for local recordings, as well as use multiple audio tracks if you desire.
https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/obs-studio-high-quality-recording-and-multiple-audio-tracks.221/
And to set it up for Twitch:
http://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/1262922-open-broadcaster-software
And to get it setup for Youtube streaming:
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2853700?hl=en&authuser=1&ref_topic=6136989
And optimizing it for Youtube:
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2853702?authuser=1
Reducing FPS lag when recording with OBS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRm2SrfNFJs
 
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BoondockSaint080

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I have 16gb of ram. Im using 1 HDD. Though I appreciate the tutorials, I've tried just about everything besides the 3rd party software.

 
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I would go with the Ryzen counterpart, mainly because I think the little single core advantage of the 6800k is not worth the price premium. The 6800k will give you higher fps in games in CPU bound scenarios, such as 1080p with a 1080ti, or in lower detail settings. However, that depends on how much the extra few fps that you get with 6800k over R7 1700 is worth to you. The difference is in the range of 100+fps (ie. 130fps for R7 1700 and 150fps for 6800K in Total War: Warhammer).
 
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That's your recording problem then.

You need a DEDICATED hard drive, that isn't being used for ANYTHING else for recordings to go well.

You can try getting OBS set up right for just streaming, and you should be able to do it if you use a GPU encoder.
 
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1. Is OBS constantly saving footage as it records? That would make a lot more sense
2. Any tutorial about OBS settings is outdated due to it's renewal and reworking as far as i know. I can't find one that's updated and therefore GPU encoding is something i can't find.
 
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There are numerous differences between mine and your setups. Though my processor has more horsepower, your games were being played at 720p while i'm playing at 1440p, your bitrate was, what i'd consider, unacceptable to an audience, and your in-game fps was sub-60, while i'm trying to shoot for 80+. The recording was way less than 30fps and i saw stuttering everywhere. I'm simply looking for better video quality at better framerates while being able to play at higher quality at higher framerates on a game that throws a fit when you only give it access to 3 cores.
 
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