best amd ryzen 5 chip

Sokrey · May 25, 2017

so I am on a budget and I was wondering should I get the 1500x or 1400
If I want to get the 1500x I would need to cheap out on the psu , gpu and case
If i want to get the 1400 I would have all premium high quality parts
I think I should get the 1400
please guys share your opinion!

photonboy · May 25, 2017

I don't really know what you mean by "premium" so it's hard to say.

The 1500x is hyperthreaded so will last you better in the long run (and will benefit you now depending on the game).

There's also the matter of the graphics card.

*Frankly, it's better to just give a BUDGET, tell us EXACTLY what it's for (Windows 10? GPU?) and allow some of who are good at balancing PC's to create something for you.

It may be useful to know what you have already in case the upgrade is hard to justify, or perhaps the money would be better spend on just a graphics card.

OTHER:
It's worth noting that RYZEN likes fast DDR4 memory. Cheaping out on that (i.e. less than 3200MHz or so in dual channel) will reduce performance.

Trafalgar747 · May 25, 2017

I probably wouldn't get either of them if you have to skimp on the other parts. If gaming is your priority the G4560 or i3 7100 offer much better value. You you list the entire build you plan on getting and the budget for it so what I may better assist you?

photonboy · May 25, 2017

It's only $20 difference for the R5-1500X vs R5-1400. It's very, very hard to recommend the R5-1400.

Sokrey · May 25, 2017

photonboy :

I don't really know what you mean by "premium" so it's hard to say.

The 1500x is hyperthreaded so will last you better in the long run (and will benefit you now depending on the game).

There's also the matter of the graphics card.

*Frankly, it's better to just give a BUDGET, tell us EXACTLY what it's for (Windows 10? GPU?) and allow some of who are good at balancing PC's to create something for you.

It may be useful to know what you have already in case the upgrade is hard to justify, or perhaps the money would be better spend on just a graphics card.

OTHER:
It's worth noting that RYZEN likes fast DDR4 memory. Cheaping out on that (i.e. less than 3200MHz or so in dual channel) will reduce performance.

by saying premium i mean high quality parts

Sokrey · May 25, 2017

photonboy :

my budget is about 650-670 dollars
i live in croatia so this means my budget is 6700 croatia kunas which is like close to 650-670 dollars
please make me a part list on pcpartpicker and please make sure ram will be overclocable and compatible with the mb

photonboy · May 25, 2017

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hDX6gL

Just an EXAMPLE. May not be ideal for you (case style).

Not sure how much parts cost there, and I didn't include Windows 10 Home 64-bit.

Sokrey · May 25, 2017

photonboy :

hey thanks for that part list but in my country the shop where im going to buy the parts they dont have some of them so can you like go trough the site im buying from and find the parts
translate it or something plz
https://www.ekupi.hr/Racunalne-komponente-g2247.aspx

Trafalgar747 · May 25, 2017

https://www.ekupi.hr/Procesor-AMD-Ryzen-5-1500X-1107769.aspx
https://www.ekupi.hr/MSI-Main-Board-Desktop-B350-B350M-GAMING-PRO-maticna-ploca-1110801.aspx
https://www.ekupi.hr/Corsair-1X8GB-DDR4-2666-C16-LP-memorija-799892.aspx
https://www.ekupi.hr/MSI-GeForce-GTX-1060-GDDR5-6GB192bit-GTX-1060-6G-OC-graficka-kartica-1013048.aspx
https://www.ekupi.hr/Tvrdi-Disk-WD-Caviar-Blue-1TB-SATA-3-WD10EZRZ-785654.aspx
https://www.ekupi.hr/Napajanje-Seasonic-SS-520GB-520W-30947.aspx
https://www.ekupi.hr/Corsair-Carbide-Series-100R-Mid-Tower-Case-CC-9011075-WW-kuciste-609444.aspx

Sorry its a bot over budget, but the site had a lousy selection of cases and I didn't want to get a cheaply built case.

Sokrey · May 25, 2017

Trafalgar747 :

https://www.ekupi.hr/Procesor-AMD-Ryzen-5-1500X-1107769.aspx
https://www.ekupi.hr/MSI-Main-Board-Desktop-B350-B350M-GAMING-PRO-maticna-ploca-1110801.aspx
https://www.ekupi.hr/Corsair-1X8GB-DDR4-2666-C16-LP-memorija-799892.aspx
https://www.ekupi.hr/MSI-GeForce-GTX-1060-GDDR5-6GB192bit-GTX-1060-6G-OC-graficka-kartica-1013048.aspx
https://www.ekupi.hr/Tvrdi-Disk-WD-Caviar-Blue-1TB-SATA-3-WD10EZRZ-785654.aspx
https://www.ekupi.hr/Napajanje-Seasonic-SS-520GB-520W-30947.aspx
https://www.ekupi.hr/Corsair-Carbide-Series-100R-Mid-Tower-Case-CC-9011075-WW-kuciste-609444.aspx

Sorry its a bot over budget, but the site had a lousy selection of cases and I didn't want to get a cheaply built case.

thank you

photonboy · May 25, 2017

1x8GB is a really, really bad idea for RYZEN.

Look up the reviews. It needs high-speed memory. Ideally 3000MHz in Dual Channel. That single stick is effectively 1333MHz in comparison.

Look for a 2x4GB 3000MHz kit (and go to the motherboard site to look at the RECOMMENDED memory kits using the exact model numbers. CORSAIR seems to be better supported than most)

*you'll then want a 4-slot memory capable motherboard, not 2-slot or else you can't upgrade to 16GB later with another identical 8GB kit. (which I'm sure is the reason that a SINGLE stick was recommended for now, and if this was INTEL it would be fine but RYZEN again requires fast memory for some reason)

photonboy · May 25, 2017

http://www.legitreviews.com/ddr4-memory-scaling-amd-am4-platform-best-memory-kit-amd-ryzen-cpus_192259/6

Remember that "3200MHz" is with two memory sticks. A single "3200MHz" stick is HALF the bandwidth thus effectively the same as a dual channel 1600MHz kit.

"By going to 3200 MHz over 2133 MHz we were seeing near 50% performance improvement in simple memory bandwidth tests and a 16% performance jump in our 1080P gaming test."

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